Controversial same-sex case

[Valmy]

Sounds about right to me.

Well maybe I should take my family and GTFO since it appears we all have a almost assured chance of being raped if we remain.  America: Land of the Rapists.

[CountDeMoney]

Maybe but that would be pretty mind blowing to me and I spent years working with sexual abuse victims.

Then you more than anybody else knows that where there is one victim, there are more from the same offender.  DOJ says 1 in 6 US women are the victim of a sex offense or attempted sex offense in their lifetime.

That would mean that reported rates of rape/sexual assault/abuse are being under-reported (not arrested or convicted or anything just reported) by at least a factor of 5. Am I to accept that instead of 1 in 6 women being raped or sexually assaulted during her lifetime the actual number is well over 70%?  Or that, for some reason, these women are reporting they are being raped or sexually assaulted but under-reporting the number of occurances?  That a significant percentage of American men are committing rape on at least an annual basis?

There was the big stink here in Baltimore a couple years ago--which I posted about--regarding the BPD's under-reporting of rape cases. And they aren't the only ones.

Last July, a lengthy investigation by The Baltimore Sun revealed that police in that city were ignoring rape claims and refusing to pass them on to investigators.

Before the newspaper's exhaustive investigation in June, reported rape cases in Baltimore were down by 15 percent for the year. But a headline in this morning's Baltimore Sun reads that reports of rapes in the city are actually up by 20 percent this year, a sharp increase since new police procedures were sparked by the Baltimore Sun investigation.

A similar investigation by the Philadelphia Inquirer in 2000 revealed that the police department in that city "downgraded" rapes for nearly two decades, and secretly dumped thousands of cases of rape with hardly any investigation.

Tracy told Senators today that police departments in several big cities, including St. Louis, New Orleans, Milwaukee, Cleveland and New York are employing similar tactics "to sweep reports of rape under the rug."

And don't forget the half million rape kits that have been collected were never tested across the country. 

Non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and media investigative reports have found rape kits in many jurisdictions nationwide, including:

1,100 in Albuquerque
2,100 in Birmingham
1,200 in Cincinnati
5,600 in Detroit
3,800 in Houston
4,000 across the state of Illinois
12,500 in Los Angeles
16,000 in New York City (c. 2003; now eliminated)
4,100 in Phoenix
1,050 across the state of Rhode Island
11,100 in San Antonio

[Ideologue]

Please show me where in this thread I am defending pedophiles.

As this thread doesn't have any European film directors drugging and assraping little kids, I'll have to show you some other threads.

Forget it, Jay.  It's Warsaw.

[frunk]

Assuming ~50 year period during a woman's lifespan when rape is most likely, you'd need 500,000 unique women raped per year in order to meet the 1 in 6 level.  In order for 70% of women to be raped in their lifetime that goes up to 2.1 million.  That's not incidences of rape, that's the number of women each year that were raped for the first time.  The actual number of rapes would probably have to be 2-3 times higher than that.  That's ridiculously high, and would probably require either many dedicated men trying to get to those numbers or a whole different culture in the US than actually exists.

[derspiess]

Does sexual assault include grabbing a girl's ass?

[Valmy]

Does sexual assault include grabbing a girl's ass?

I think grabbing somebody is technically assault, so I think so.  But this is one of those gray areas.

[Ed Anger]

Does sexual assault include grabbing a girl's ass?

You see where Beyonce got her ass slapped in Denmark? I'd make that ass go numb.

[The Brain]

Does sexual assault include grabbing a girl's ass?

It most certainly does!

[DGuller]

Does sexual assault include grabbing a girl's ass?

It most certainly does!

[garbon]

Does sexual assault include grabbing a girl's ass?

It most certainly does!

[fhdz]

Sounds about right to me.

Well maybe I should take my family and GTFO since it appears we all have a almost assured chance of being raped if we remain.  America: Land of the Rapists.

Hide your kids. Hide your wife.

[garbon]

Sounds about right to me.

Well maybe I should take my family and GTFO since it appears we all have a almost assured chance of being raped if we remain.  America: Land of the Rapists.

Hide your kids. Hide your wife.

I'm no longer gay.

[merithyn]

Maybe but that would be pretty mind blowing to me and I spent years working with sexual abuse victims.

That would mean that reported rates of rape/sexual assault/abuse are being under-reported (not arrested or convicted or anything just reported) by at least a factor of 5. Am I to accept that instead of 1 in 6 women being raped or sexually assaulted during her lifetime the actual number is well over 70%?  Or that, for some reason, these women are reporting they are being raped or sexually assaulted but under-reporting the number of occurances?  That a significant percentage of American men are committing rape on at least an annual basis?

Not 70%, but not 16%, either. More like 30-35%.

Link

Sexual violence affects women disproportionately, the researchers found. One-third of women said they had been victims of a rape, beating or stalking, or a combination of assaults.

The researchers defined rape as completed forced penetration, forced penetration facilitated by drugs or alcohol, or attempted forced penetration.

[merithyn]

Does sexual assault include grabbing a girl's ass?

I think grabbing somebody is technically assault, so I think so.  But this is one of those gray areas.

How is that a "gray area"?

[Valmy]

Not 70%, but not 16%, either. More like 30-35%.

I was discussing a hypothetical there.

Not 70%, but not 16%, either. More like 30-35%.

The article says it is 1 in 5, or 20%.  The 1/3rd counts a few other things.

The sorta scary part is is that those numbers are actually down from the past.