Sweden goes French again

[Vricklund]

In Sweden's situation a growing gap is a good thing. The gap has been far too narrow far too long.

Tell them that, I'm not the one rioting.

The whole "it's got to be worth it" rethoric must come from people with some seriously fucked up work ethic - are you saying you'd rather be on welfare if it wasn't for our last three tax cuts?

[Tamas]

I don't get this "omg they have problems". What difference does that make? Is poverty -in a country with extensive welfare and a free education- sufficient ground for rioting and destroying other people's property?

[The Brain]

Unlike General Kala a Socialist will never take personal responsibility.

[Sheilbh]

I don't get this "omg they have problems". What difference does that make? Is poverty -in a country with extensive welfare and a free education- sufficient ground for rioting and destroying other people's property?

I think the issue with immigrant communities in Europe isn't poverty so much as whether there's an open society. Work and opportunity are good things. Even if you've the best welfare system in the world if the same people are always going to be on it then that'll cause anger. You're effectively paying people to be excluded which isn't what welfare's for and isn't good for those communities either. I'm not sure how that applies to Sweden though.

Although with riots I think they happen because of crowd mentality and a breakdown of order.

[Syt]

Unlike General Kala a Socialist will never take personal responsibility.

[The Brain]

I don't get this "omg they have problems". What difference does that make? Is poverty -in a country with extensive welfare and a free education- sufficient ground for rioting and destroying other people's property?

I think the issue with immigrant communities in Europe isn't poverty so much as whether there's an open society. Work and opportunity are good things. Even if you've the best welfare system in the world if the same people are always going to be on it then that'll cause anger. You're effectively paying people to be excluded which isn't what welfare's for and isn't good for those communities either. I'm not sure how that applies to Sweden though.

Although with riots I think they happen because of crowd mentality and a breakdown of order.

There's plenty of opportunity in the ghetto. You want to be a doctor? Engineer? Lawyer? It's all free.

We're not the best country for entrepreneurs, but by no means bad when compared to say southern Europe. Lots and lots of people are self-employed in Sweden.

[Liep]

The French won't be out done. 200000 demonstrate in Paris against gay weddings, several attacking the police.

Yeah Europe!

[11B4V]

The French won't be out done. 200000 demonstrate in Paris against gay weddings, several attacking the police.

Yeah Europe!

Wow, I can say the US is superior.

[Duque de Bragança]

The French won't be out done. 200000 demonstrate in Paris against gay weddings, several attacking the police.

Yeah Europe!

Only several?
That's only a provincial football brawl vs gendarmes...

PS: Valls, interior über minister claims there were hundreds of them  

[Liep]

Several of 200000 can be hundreds, no?

[Neil]

Unlike General Kala a Socialist will never take personal responsibility.

That's Kael.