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The Rand Paul Countdown to 2016 Megathread

Started by CountDeMoney, May 12, 2013, 09:30:28 PM

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Razgovory

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2013, 10:34:47 PM
RAWR THAT WAS A GOOD'UN CLETUS

You know, I wouldn't think a ploy where you block everything someone does and then claim they aren't getting anything done would actually work, but it does.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

sbr

Quote from: Razgovory on August 01, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2013, 10:34:47 PM
RAWR THAT WAS A GOOD'UN CLETUS

You know, I wouldn't think a ploy where you block everything someone does and then claim they aren't getting anything done would actually work, but it does.

When the audience you are playing to shares a small number of brain cells you can do all sorts of silly things.

11B4V

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"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

QuoteRand Paul wants to restore felons' voting rights
By Aaron Blake, washingtonpost.com

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Monday that he will work to restore the voting rights of convicted felons who have completed their sentences.

More from the Louisville Courier-Journal:

    Speaking at a community center in western Louisville, Paul said laws should be changed to make it easier for felons to regain their rights to vote at both the state and federal levels.

    Short of that, he suggested that "Class D" felonies for crimes like drug possession and non-payment of child support should be reclassified to misdemeanors so those who are convicted wouldn't lose their voting rights in the first place.

    Paul said a third of adult black men are convicted felons and that restoring their voting rights is the most important thing government can do to make sure people's voting rights are protected.


Felon voting rights aren't exactly the issue du jour in Congress, but state lawmakers in Kentucky have proposed allowing convicted felons to vote after they've served their sentences -- something most states allow.

An automated poll earlier this year showed Kentuckians approved of that idea by a 51-38 margin.

Generally, though, Democrats are more in favor of allowing felons to vote while Republicans oppose the idea.

Paul has also pushed to get rid of mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses, arguing that they disproportionately impact minorities and clog the jail system.

Razgovory

Quote from: sbr on August 02, 2013, 12:09:58 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 01, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 01, 2013, 10:34:47 PM
RAWR THAT WAS A GOOD'UN CLETUS

You know, I wouldn't think a ploy where you block everything someone does and then claim they aren't getting anything done would actually work, but it does.

When the audience you are playing to shares a small number of brain cells you can do all sorts of silly things.

I wonder if it will still be convincing when the shoe is on the other foot.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

See this is the side of Rand Paul I love. And he's right on both points.
Let's bomb Russia!

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 18, 2013, 08:52:20 PM
See this is the side of Rand Paul I love. And he's right on both points.

Yeah, but for everything he has a good idea for, he's got a shitty idea somewhere else.

Habbaku

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 18, 2013, 08:54:19 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 18, 2013, 08:52:20 PM
See this is the side of Rand Paul I love. And he's right on both points.

Yeah, but for everything he has a good idea for, he's got a shitty idea somewhere else.

Better 1:1 than 0:10 like most other Republicans.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Habbaku on September 18, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Better 1:1 than 0:10 like most other Republicans.

Yes, let's return felon voting rights, but pull out of NATO.  Swell.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Habbaku on September 18, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Better 1:1 than 0:10 like most other Republicans.
To be honest I think a lot of best ideas from current Republicans are coming from the right. Ross Douthat made this point recently, but Lee on tax, Vitter on banks and Paul on civil liberties etc. I may not agree with their ideas but unlike every other Republican idea since Reagan they're new and they're interesting. It's nice to see people stepping out with something new.

I also think it's the direction Republicans need to head and could provide the backbone to their populism. It's exactly what populist conservatism should look like - lower taxes (but not mentalist tax cuts) especially for the middle class and hostile to big business and big government.
Let's bomb Russia!

mongers

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 19, 2013, 12:11:10 AM
Lee on tax, Vitter on banks and Paul on civil liberties etc. I may not agree with their ideas but unlike every other Republican idea since Reagan they're new and they're interesting.

They aren't new at all.
What does make them distinctive is that they are bipartisan.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Sheilbh

Okay. At least they're policies not just slogans.

But for a party that primaried someone like Bennett for insufficient conservatism and working with Wyden on health reform bipartisanship in itself is an interesting shift, especially when it includes his ouster.

If nothing else that combo makes them seem new and refreshing in today's Republican party.
Let's bomb Russia!

crazy canuck

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 19, 2013, 12:11:10 AM
(but not mentalist tax cuts)

Mentalists have always been problematic in all gaming settings.  I agree they should not be encouraged with generous tax breaks.