2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Martinus

#8430
April 05, 2016, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 05, 2016, 10:04:25 AM
Is it this ARG poll: http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2016/primary/rep/wirep.html ?

Yes, and it shows as "forbidden" for me. Maybe it's a Polish thing.

Valmy

#8431
April 05, 2016, 01:15:04 PM
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Berkut

#8432
April 05, 2016, 01:18:01 PM
So both Cruz and Trump are calling for Kasich to bail.

I think Trump is thinking Kasich is pulling delegates from him, and Cruz wants to go into the convention positioned as the only alternative to Trump.

The current convention rules state that only candidates who win at least 8 states get on the ballot at all, and of course neither of them are inclined to change that, and the rules committee is composed of delegates, and neither of those two are going to put delegates on the committee who would change that rule.

Kasich has to win some states, but that doesn't seem likely at this point.

I hope he stays in anyway though, just because the other two options are just so very, very bad...
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Valmy

#8433
April 05, 2016, 01:26:53 PM
Kasich needs to stay in. Both Cruz and Trump are unstable candidates, something might still go wrong for one of both that opens the door for Kasich.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

alfred russel

#8434
April 05, 2016, 01:58:15 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 05, 2016, 01:18:01 PM

The current convention rules state that only candidates who win at least 8 states get on the ballot at all, and of course neither of them are inclined to change that, and the rules committee is composed of delegates, and neither of those two are going to put delegates on the committee who would change that rule.

a) that was a temporary rule applying to the last convention that had never been in place before and was there just to keep out Ron Paul. Of course the two guys that qualify under that rule would want to keep out anyone else.
b) in many cases the delegates are not really aligned to the people they are pledged to. For example, I read that even though Trump swept all 55 or so delegates in Arizona, of those 55 something like 50 prefer Cruz. It is possible that a lot of state delegations are filled with people that don't like either candidate, and are more traditional sorts of republicans that might favor Kasich. (though my hunch is that Trump has very limited support, while Cruz has been working the delegate selection process to stack delegates, and once it goes to a second ballot he wins--Kasich should be doing that but seems to barely be running a campaign at this point)
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Legbiter

#8435
April 05, 2016, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 05, 2016, 01:26:53 PM
Kasich needs to stay in. Both Cruz and Trump are unstable candidates, something might still go wrong for one of both that opens the door for Kasich.

You're still at denial?  :huh: You should get to the bargaining phase for your emotional well-being ASAP.  :lol:
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Valmy

#8436
April 05, 2016, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on April 05, 2016, 02:29:11 PM
You're still at denial?  :huh: You should get to the bargaining phase for your emotional well-being ASAP.  :lol:

Not sure what you mean. I think Cruz is far more likely to fall apart since so much of his appeal is based on his ideological and moral purity. Kasich might pick up a few states.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Legbiter

#8438
April 05, 2016, 03:32:40 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 05, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
The Illusive Trump:

http://www.avclub.com/article/donald-trump-tweets-amateur-campaign-ad-narrated-p-234794?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds

Soros as Harbinger was a nice touch. :thumbsup: The article itself is the usual millennial cancer of the ass.
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FunkMonk

#8439
April 05, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Trump and will soon see the end of the Sanders rebellion. 
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Habbaku

#8440
April 05, 2016, 05:12:02 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 05, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Trump and will soon see the end of the Sanders rebellion.

While I hope you are right regarding this being the end of Trump, why do you think this will stop Sanders?  He's going to win in Wisconsin by a comfortable margin, by my reckoning.
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Tonitrus

#8441
April 05, 2016, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 05, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Trump and will soon see the end of the Sanders rebellion.

Careful...remember how that movie reference turned out.  :P

jimmy olsen

#8442
April 05, 2016, 08:35:34 PM
Cruz wins Wisconsin. Trump will have to win big in NY to make up for it if we wants to get 1237
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Phillip V

#8443
April 05, 2016, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 05, 2016, 08:35:34 PM
Cruz wins Wisconsin. Trump will have to win big in NY to make up for it if we wants to get 1237

Trump should issue a televised humbly soft apology to all women.  They will forgive him, and the votes will return.

CountDeMoney

#8444
April 05, 2016, 08:50:06 PM Last Edit: April 05, 2016, 08:53:48 PM by CountDeMoney
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 05, 2016, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 05, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Trump and will soon see the end of the Sanders rebellion.

Careful...remember how that movie reference turned out.  :P

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