2016 elections - because it's never too early

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garbon

#6825
March 10, 2016, 06:21:15 PM
I don't know what to think about that, other than what a bizarre place with rules for the time of day when milkshakes can be served. :hmm:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Eddie Teach

#6826
March 10, 2016, 06:27:41 PM
JEB!'s milkshake failed to bring all the voters to the poll.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

jimmy olsen

#6827
March 10, 2016, 07:02:13 PM
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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11B4V

#6828
March 10, 2016, 08:26:08 PM
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Kleves

#6829
March 10, 2016, 09:41:23 PM
I'm watching the debate, despite the risk to my sanity. Trump is a rambling incoherent buffoon. Cruz is coherent, but somehow worse.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

jimmy olsen

#6830
March 10, 2016, 10:38:57 PM
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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jimmy olsen

#6831
March 11, 2016, 12:23:22 AM
For the March 15 races I'm going to predict Trump wins Illinois, North Carolina and Florida, while Kaisch wins Ohio and Cruz wins Missouri.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Eddie Teach

#6832
March 11, 2016, 12:46:29 AM
Why do people keep typing "Kaisch"? That would be a one syllable word. It's "Kasich".
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

jimmy olsen

#6833
March 11, 2016, 01:01:04 AM Last Edit: March 11, 2016, 01:12:16 AM by jimmy olsen
I laughed at this

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/10/obama_approval_rating_at_three_year_high.html
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Obama Approval Reaches Three-Year High as America Realizes It Could, and Will, Do So Much Worse
By Ben Mathis-Lilley


Well, this—from Politico—makes sense:

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President Barack Obama's approval rating is the highest it has been since May 2013, according to the results of the latest weekly Gallup tracking poll.

Overall, 50 percent of those surveyed said they approve of the job the president is doing so far in his final 365 days in office.

I'm not a highly paid political strategist, but it seems like there is a pretty obvious reason why Obama's poll numbers would be rising right now, namely: The dawning sense of terror enveloping Americans who are realizing that they are going to have to replace him with, probably, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. Trump would be the most-disliked non-incumbent nominee since at least 1992—and Hillary Clinton would be the second-most-disliked.

QuoteBrendan Nyhan ‎@BrendanNyhan
Trump's favorability numbers are without precedent among major pres candidates at this stage http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-where-have-all-popular-candidates-gone-n535756 ...



There are candidates this year that Americans generally like—but they're not the ones who are winning their races:




Obama's not perfect, and the United States is very far from perfect, but let's consider how things compare now to how they were eight years ago:

•The economy is growing faster.
•Unemployment is down.
•Crime is down.
•The federal deficit is down.
•More people have health insurance.
•Fewer American soldiers are dying overseas.
•Osama bin Laden is dead.
•The president generally answers questions about his policies in an honest and intelligent way.


Not bad, yeah? And the person who was around for all that is going to be replaced by Clinton—who may well continue Obama's policies but is widely perceived as dishonest and disingenuous—or Donald Trump, who is America's worst human. Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Monoriu

#6834
March 11, 2016, 01:23:05 AM
I am surprised about two things.  First, how come the candidates who score high in the net favourability scores aren't winning their races?  And two, how come "The president generally answers questions about his policies in an honest and intelligent way" is considered an accomplishment?  This should be so basic that it is taken for granted.  It is like saying the cook does a good job because you won't die from eating his food.

Martinus

#6835
March 11, 2016, 01:27:01 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 11, 2016, 12:46:29 AM
Why do people keep typing "Kaisch"? That would be a one syllable word. It's "Kasich".

I made fun of Tim making this typo over and over again earlier but I don't think he even noticed.

Martinus

#6836
March 11, 2016, 01:29:35 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 10, 2016, 06:27:41 PM
JEB!'s milkshake failed to bring all the voters to the poll.

And Trump's like it's better than yours.

Eddie Teach

#6837
March 11, 2016, 01:36:16 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on March 11, 2016, 01:23:05 AM
I am surprised about two things.  First, how come the candidates who score high in the net favourability scores aren't winning their races?  And two, how come "The president generally answers questions about his policies in an honest and intelligent way" is considered an accomplishment?  This should be so basic that it is taken for granted.  It is like saying the cook does a good job because you won't die from eating his food.

How honest are central committee members? It's basically like that. People in government obfuscate.

As for the first question, it's the same reason I don't accept high Rotten Tomatoes scores as evidence that a movie is "great". Candidates going around mouthing platitudes and hedging on issues don't give people reason to dislike them, but they don't inspire them either.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Martinus

#6838
March 11, 2016, 01:45:01 AM
I don't really buy the usual explanation that in primaries extremists get better results than in general election in case of Trump either. If this was the case, he wouldn't be doing better in open primaries. If anything, Cruz is going to do much worse than Trump in the general election.

Martinus

#6839
March 11, 2016, 01:46:56 AM
Onion makes a mildly-amusing bit about Trump:

http://www.theonion.com/article/i-suffer-severe-psychological-issues-and-i-need-he-52513

What's funniest is the Facebook comments section, which has dozens of people who claim to be mentally ill and are offended by this "ableist" satire. And they do not seem to be joking. :bleeding:
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