2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Admiral Yi

Why do you think he would get shellacked in the general?

derspiess

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2013, 12:30:28 PM
Why do you think he would get shellacked in the general?

Too New York-- his name & accent won't play well in the heartland.  Too far left.  Esablished anti-gun record.

He was making some good inroads toward the middle by taking on the teacher unions but I'm not seeing a whole lot else now that would help grab the center.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

merithyn

Quote from: derspiess on May 09, 2013, 01:03:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2013, 12:30:28 PM
Why do you think he would get shellacked in the general?

Too New York-- his name & accent won't play well in the heartland.  Too far left.  Esablished anti-gun record.

He was making some good inroads toward the middle by taking on the teacher unions but I'm not seeing a whole lot else now that would help grab the center.

:hmm:

I'd say the gun thing would be a good way to do so... Plus, eastern Republicans read better to the Heartland. More in keeping with the socially liberal, fiscally conservative that we like.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Admiral Yi

Quote from: merithyn on May 09, 2013, 01:06:01 PM
Plus, eastern Republicans read better to the Heartland. More in keeping with the socially liberal, fiscally conservative that we like.

Cuomo?  :hmm:

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

The Minsky Moment

Rubio, Bush, and Christie are all strong.  Jindal is a VP run.  Walker may have problems holding together the Reagan coalition of working class blue collars in Ohio and Penn. 
Rand Paul is a fruitcake.  It's nice that he is socially moderate but just say the word "Fed" and he starts speaking in tongues.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

merithyn

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2013, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 09, 2013, 01:06:01 PM
Plus, eastern Republicans read better to the Heartland. More in keeping with the socially liberal, fiscally conservative that we like.

Cuomo?  :hmm:

I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about Mario Cuomo from New York. Are you not? :unsure:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

derspiess

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 09, 2013, 01:10:44 PM
Rubio, Bush, and Christie are all strong.  Jindal is a VP run.  Walker may have problems holding together the Reagan coalition of working class blue collars in Ohio and Penn. 
Rand Paul is a fruitcake.  It's nice that he is socially moderate but just say the word "Fed" and he starts speaking in tongues.

AUDIT THE FED
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on May 09, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2013, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 09, 2013, 01:06:01 PM
Plus, eastern Republicans read better to the Heartland. More in keeping with the socially liberal, fiscally conservative that we like.

Cuomo?  :hmm:

I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about Mario Cuomo from New York. Are you not? :unsure:

Andrew Coumo, his son (and current governor of New York). Also as far as I know Mario was also a Democrat...
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: merithyn on May 09, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about Mario Cuomo from New York. Are you not? :unsure:

I was.  The only family more Democrat than the Cuomos is the Daleys.

Joan: fair knock on Paul.  Let's see if he can get coached up a little and transition his message to a more reasonable critique of easy money.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 09, 2013, 09:01:39 AM
Tea Party Taint isn't quite as strong a factor as you think it is, for example.

As long as they continue letting the local fruitcakes run the primary system, it will remain a factor.

Oh look, and they kept Rinse Previous as RNC chairman, too.  Unanimously.  So much for not being the "party of the stupid" next time around.

I can't wait for the next GOP primary season, with the same knuckleheads in charge as last time.


merithyn

Quote from: garbon on May 09, 2013, 01:25:23 PM

Andrew Coumo, his son (and current governor of New York). Also as far as I know Mario was also a Democrat...

My mistake. (And I thought they were Democrats, but figured I had it wrong.)

My point was more that Republicans from the upper east coast play far better in middle America than any other Republicans.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

CountDeMoney

Quote from: merithyn on May 09, 2013, 11:55:19 AM
Personally, a less socially conservative GOP would make me very, very happy.

That ship sailed, sister.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 09, 2013, 01:45:37 PM
Oh look, and they kept Rinse Previous as RNC chairman, too.  Unanimously. 

Hey, don't knock my boy.  His rebranding initiative was a political masterpiece :lol:

QuoteSo much for not being the "party of the stupid" next time around.

Yeah, we are the stupid party :(
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Eddie Teach

Quote from: merithyn on May 09, 2013, 08:19:47 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 09, 2013, 08:17:22 AM
Oh, I forgot-- this is Languish, where hatred of Teh RIght obscures all objective thought.

:secret: garbon is on the right. :secret:

Not any more than Yi is on the left.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?