2016 elections - because it's never too early

[sbr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

I don't even ...

Black dude behind Trump's left shoulder is great.

[CountDeMoney]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

I don't even ...

Nothing new, man.  Where the fuck have you been?

January:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/jan/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-created-isis-obama-video

[11B4V]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

I don't even ...

Nothing new, man.  Where the fuck have you been?

January:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/jan/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-created-isis-obama-video

Well Trump just lost his black vote. All white boy show now.

[sbr]

NBC NewsVerified account
‏@NBCNews
72 percent of registered Republicans still doubt President Obama's citizenship, poll shows http://nbcnews.to/2aZVvlw

[sbr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

I don't even ...

Nothing new, man.  Where the fuck have you been?

January:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/jan/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-created-isis-obama-video

Well to be fair there is a difference between "created" and founded".

I think.

Fuck I don't even know what to think anymore.

[sbr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

I don't even ...

Nothing new, man.  Where the fuck have you been?

January:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/jan/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-created-isis-obama-video

Well Trump just lost his black vote. All white boy show now.

Nah the black gal on the other side of him seemed to be picking up what he was putting down.

[CountDeMoney]

Well Trump just lost his black vote. All white boy show now.

Nonsense.  Dr. Carson never misses an election day.

[sbr]

Noah Gray CNNVerified account
‏@NoahGrayCNN
Trump crowd in sunrise FL has changed their "lock her up" chants to "lock them up," referring to the press, after Trump criticizing press

Sorry about dropping all the Twitter responses but that's how I am following this and it is fascinating/terrifiying.

[11B4V]

Noah Gray CNNVerified account
‏@NoahGrayCNN
Trump crowd in sunrise FL has changed their "lock her up" chants to "lock them up," referring to the press, after Trump criticizing press

Sorry about dropping all the Twitter responses but that's how I am following this and it is fascinating/terrifiying.

<patiently waits for the armed insurrection>

My patrol division has the heavy weapons to put down any mouth breather insurrection in the area.

<I dare you mouth breathers, try it.>

[merithyn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

I don't even ...

Black dude behind Trump's left shoulder is great.

I wonder how much those three black people in the background were paid to be there. None of them cheered at all, and they all looked incredibly uncomfortable. I can just imagine the acting call that went out for that one...

[Monoriu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlorYteUsA

I don't even ...

Black dude behind Trump's left shoulder is great.

[Phillip V]

There has been far less polling for Senate races, and what polling data that exist have been from July or much earlier. But with the trickle of August polling that has come in, it looks like the Democrats are on track to win back the Senate.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/senate/2016_elections_senate_map.html

[Martinus]

I still don't get why Marty likes Trump. Is he a single issue "voter" about being anti-Muslim? Trump seems to stand against virtually everything else a reasonably liberal European would vote for.

"I don't see how anyone with intelligence and integrity can vote for Trump."
Get it?

Plus it's hardly surprising that Marti's seduced by an authoritarian strong man. It's just a surprise he's resisted Putin this long

What gave you the idea that Marty was liberal or European?

You just couldn't help yourself, could you, guys? If something doesn't fit your narrative, it has to end with namecalling and attacks on character. 

As I said already, I think Trump is a shitty candidate. And on balance of issues, I support Hillary over him. But one issue I think he is superior to Hillary is the threat of Islamism (and no, this issue is not enough to make me support him over Hillary, so I guess I am not a "one issue" voter, after all. Yay!). His ideas how to go about it may be half-baked and ham-fisted but at least he acknowledges there is a threat (and that it is neither limited to, nor simply a flavour of a more general terror threat - it is quite unique and requires unique approach). This is more than what Hillary and Obama are doing, as they are claiming the threat does not even exist.

[Martinus]

I still don't get why Marty likes Trump. Is he a single issue "voter" about being anti-Muslim? Trump seems to stand against virtually everything else a reasonably liberal European would vote for.

Trump will rescue Europe from Islam.
By delivering it to Russian rule.
Under the new Great Putinist Union, the state will not execute people for being gay.  Rather, that task will be handled by neo-fascist youth groups supported by the government.
Much better, you see.

Yeah, well that's part of the trouble with supporting Trump. Allying with Putin against Islam is like, I don't know, allying with Stalin against Hitler. Pretty dodgy stuff.

[Sheilbh]

You just couldn't help yourself, could you, guys? If something doesn't fit your narrative, it has to end with namecalling and attacks on character. 

That's cause it's fun

As I said already, I think Trump is a shitty candidate. And on balance of issues, I support Hillary over him. But one issue I think he is superior to Hillary is the threat of Islamism (and no, this issue is not enough to make me support him over Hillary, so I guess I am not a "one issue" voter, after all. Yay!). His ideas how to go about it may be half-baked and ham-fisted but at least he acknowledges there is a threat (and that it is neither limited to, nor simply a flavour of a more general terror threat - it is quite unique and requires unique approach). This is more than what Hillary and Obama are doing, as they are claiming the threat does not even exist.

But this is again just nonsense. Jeffrey Goldberg who wrote the excellent 'Obama Doctrine' piece, has written another particularly good piece on this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/06/obama-radical-islam/487079/

I think there is a critique on this to be made of Obama - I think Syria will go down as his big mistake - I'm just not sure this is the one.

Edit: And for what it's worth I think Clinton will be a little closer to W than Obama.