2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Admiral Yi]

I received some Trump campaign mail asking for a donation.  Included was a Trump Card with my name on it! 

Ha, what a bunch of retards sending a solicitation letter to such a fiercely devoted Gary Johnson supporter. 

[garbon]

Wondermark is brilliant 

So I take it that was an off day for them?

[Eddie Teach]

Clinton has now received 50% support in a 4-way national poll.  Impressive.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

Not so impressive when two of the parties are the Libertarians and the greens.

[celedhring]

AZ and GA have turned blue in the regular 538 forecast.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

[Phillip V]

AZ and GA have turned blue in the regular 538 forecast.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

I would also like to see Clinton win Indiana (fuck Pence) and Utah (go Mormons!).

Obama won Indiana in 2008, and Romney/Huntsman should endorse Clinton or Johnson.

[Sheilbh]

Maybe Romney then.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/278261-huntsman-time-for-gop-to-rally-around-trump

[garbon]

Maybe Romney then.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/278261-huntsman-time-for-gop-to-rally-around-trump

I'm not sure it is fair to hold him to whatever opinion he had nearly 3.5 months ago. Most recent thing I could find about him was Lieberman saying that he's been hanging out with people like Huntsman trying to think about what politics could be like post this terrible campaign.

[CountDeMoney]

In terms of corruption of the system I would worry far more about Bill and the Clinton Foundation than Hill and her speaking fees etc.

This conspiracy theory confuses me as well. Exactly why would the Clinton's engage in political corruption to fund a non-profit foundation, whose assets they can't touch for personal purposes?

Besides, the foundation model has become the contemporary model for NPO fund management: it allows for tighter control, targeted funding, cuts down on overhead--and it picks up the slack from the politically hostile environment of the last 30+ years and its successful efforts to disengage government from the "social contract" grant business. 

I mean, I know the current fashion is to try to be as indifferent, unsympathetic and cunty as possible toward your fellow man, but c'mon, Sheilbh.  The fucking Church can't do it all by itself.

[Sheilbh]

I'm not sure it is fair to hold him to whatever opinion he had nearly 3.5 months ago. Most recent thing I could find about him was Lieberman saying that he's been hanging out with people like Huntsman trying to think about what politics could be like post this terrible campaign.

It's like the Onion article today:
http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-campaign-ponders-going-negative-53403

What is surprising about anything Trump's done between April and now?

I think this election campaign's been pretty clarifying of who's got some convictions and who's a hack. Huntsman's failed.

[garbon]

I'm not sure it is fair to hold him to whatever opinion he had nearly 3.5 months ago. Most recent thing I could find about him was Lieberman saying that he's been hanging out with people like Huntsman trying to think about what politics could be like post this terrible campaign.

It's like the Onion article today:
http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-campaign-ponders-going-negative-53403

What is surprising about anything Trump's done between April and now?

I think this election campaign's been pretty clarifying of who's got some convictions and who's a hack. Huntsman's failed.

I'm not so rigid but I'd agree that he does not appear to be the man that some people here in the past were so happy about.

[Sheilbh]

I'm living through my own political party being taken over by lunatics nightmare so I may be particularly angry

I'm surprised by Huntsman and pretty impressed by Romney - which I didn't think would happen.

Incidentally if those Georgia numbers are true that's extraordinary and suggests Trump is starting to lose a big chunk of the evangelical vote.

[CountDeMoney]

Maybe Romney then.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/278261-huntsman-time-for-gop-to-rally-around-trump

Wow.  And Jon Huntsman was the only Republican I actually liked and respected in 2012. et tu, Jon?

[Berkut]

Maybe Romney then.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/278261-huntsman-time-for-gop-to-rally-around-trump

Wow.  And Jon Huntsman was the only Republican I actually liked and respected in 2012. et tu, Jon?

How could someone who sat out the convention in 2012 over differences in principle with the GOP now call for unity behind fucking Trump???

[Sheilbh]

Well he did sit out the convention again. So, you know, profile in courage.

[CountDeMoney]

How could someone who sat out the convention in 2012 over differences in principle with the GOP now call for unity behind fucking Trump???

I just don't get that one at all.  Honestly, he's so far removed from the modern GOP picture, he wouldn't even register on Trump's radar in the first place. 

I really wonder about these people.