Afghanistan Or Syria, Which 'Proxy' Falls First ?

[mongers]

In some ways you could view these two regimes as proxies for the 'East' and the 'West', Russia and Iran still back Syria and the West backs Karzai in Kabul.

OK the conflicts are different, Afghanistan's conflict having simmered slowly for years now, whereas Syria's has continued to escalated over the last two years. But I think the Karzai kleptocracy doesn't have anywhere near the stomach for a fight that the al-Assad's do, so it's a more evened out comparison.

So my question is which fails or falls first ?

One metric might be to consider the fall of the capital, be it Kabul or Damascus, to be the convenient end of the regime.

[Admiral Yi]

Does Aghanistan "fall" if Karzai loses an election and steps down?

[CountDeMoney]

Afghanistan will die a long, slow and expensive death, reverting back to 1990's form in due time.

[mongers]

Does Aghanistan "fall" if Karzai loses an election and steps down?

No that's the long run, remember we'll all be dead then. 

Seriously, no, it's the system's fall that counts, though I'd argue it's his or at least was partial built for and around him. 

[Admiral Yi]

Afghanistan will die a long, slow and expensive death, reverting back to 1990's form in due time.

I expect it will be a rerun of the post-Soviet days: Taliban controls the Pashtun areas, Karzai hangs on in the capital.

[Ed Anger]

I won't shed a tear when Karzai gets a bullet to the back of the head.

[CountDeMoney]

Dostum 2016.

[Ed Anger]

Dostum 2016.

[mongers]

Dostum 2016.

That guy really is the ultimate survivor, isn't he still around ? 

[CountDeMoney]

Oh, hell yeah.  He's the ultimate Afghani to do business with, too.  No bullshit with him.  He calls 'em like he sees 'em, and then kills 'em.

[mongers]

Oh, hell yeah.  He's the ultimate Afghani to do business with, too.  No bullshit with him.  He calls 'em like he sees 'em, and then kills 'em.

The John Wayne of Afghanistan.   

Read the somewhat confusing wiki about him, seems he still has a few more miles/massacres/change of sides left in him.

[DGuller]

For Afghanistan to fall, it has to get up first.

[Razgovory]

Trust me, you go always go down.

[katmai]

Why you dissing the yugo?

[DontSayBanana]

Why you dissing the yugo?

Because the Yugo deserves it?