Paradox Games

[crazy canuck]

Hands down CKII is best. And i have all three of them so i speak from first hand experience.

[Syt]

CK II.  I haven't played Victoria II yet but this new expansion has me wanting to give it a try.

Wait for a patch. Currently, the AI releases dominions whenever they can. It mostly runs: AI releases dominions, invests free colonization points in colonies, releases them as dominions etc. I hope they tie it to a tech, like German unification.

The original gameplay idea was that you build up your fleet to gain colonization points.

[Josquius]

From what I hear there:s a bit of an issue with a super on the ball AI always increasing its colonial investments at the first second they can, which means there:s less of a colonial race and more of a long wait where whoever went first wins. My friend who did buy it says he stopped playing within a few hours when he realised he was just looking at uncolonised parts of the map and waiting

[jimmy olsen]

Crusader Kings II is their best since EUII, possibly their best ever.  It's also the most accessible.

EUIII is incredible once you add all the expansions. Second only to CKII in my opinion. HOI2 comes in an entertaining third place.

Given how well they did with the family dynamics and all the expansions with CK2, I'm starting to think they should revisit classical Europe. I think they'd be able to make a game as a patrician Roman family interesting and fun.

[Josquius]

Crusader Kings II is their best since EUII, possibly their best ever.  It's also the most accessible.

EUIII is incredible once you add all the expansions. Second only to CKII in my opinion. HOI2 comes in an entertaining third place.

Given how well they did with the family dynamics and all the expansions with CK2, I'm starting to think they should revisit classical Europe. I think they'd be able to make a game as a patrician Roman family interesting and fun.

They need to move away from their core "paint the map your faction's colour" game for that really.
Which is easier said than done given gamers have been raised into that sort of world.
But if managed yes, could be great.

[Razgovory]

Crusader Kings II is their best since EUII, possibly their best ever.  It's also the most accessible.

EUIII is incredible once you add all the expansions. Second only to CKII in my opinion. HOI2 comes in an entertaining third place.

Given how well they did with the family dynamics and all the expansions with CK2, I'm starting to think they should revisit classical Europe. I think they'd be able to make a game as a patrician Roman family interesting and fun.

I think they already did that.

[garbon]

Crusader Kings II is their best since EUII, possibly their best ever.  It's also the most accessible.

EUIII is incredible once you add all the expansions. Second only to CKII in my opinion. HOI2 comes in an entertaining third place.

Given how well they did with the family dynamics and all the expansions with CK2, I'm starting to think they should revisit classical Europe. I think they'd be able to make a game as a patrician Roman family interesting and fun.

I think they already did that.

That's why he said revisit.  The game they came out with was not interesting nor was it fun.

[Caliga]

I think they should come out with a game set in Hyperborea... they own the license to do that, right?  That way they would be free to innovate without a bunch of fucking nerds going "WAAAAAH WAAAAAAH ITS 1420 AND GRANADA ALWAYS GETS DESTROYED THATS NOT REALITSIC!!!!!!!!!!!" or nationalist nerds going "WHY CANNOT I CONQEUR THE WORLD WITH BULGARIA!"

[Syt]

No, instead you will get a new group of nerds complaining that the stats for Stygian priests are incorrect and that the inner workings of the Aquilonian court aren't properly taken into account.

[AnchorClanker]

Looks like I need to plump for CKII   

I quite liked Vicky II, though.  Spain was always fun to play.

[jimmy olsen]

Crusader Kings II is their best since EUII, possibly their best ever.  It's also the most accessible.

EUIII is incredible once you add all the expansions. Second only to CKII in my opinion. HOI2 comes in an entertaining third place.

Given how well they did with the family dynamics and all the expansions with CK2, I'm starting to think they should revisit classical Europe. I think they'd be able to make a game as a patrician Roman family interesting and fun.

They need to move away from their core "paint the map your faction's colour" game for that really.
Which is easier said than done given gamers have been raised into that sort of world.
But if managed yes, could be great.

Roman politicians were all about painting the map red to gain prestige and loot. Don't see why they'd have to move away from it. After all, warfare isn't the reason that CK2 is fun, but it's still an integral part of the game and painting the map your color is still a main goal.

[Syt]

painting the map your color is still a main goal.

Only if you make it so. It's never been a goal in any of my CK or CK 2 games.

[jimmy olsen]

And in game about Classical Europe made with the same engine, doubtlessly you'd have the option to opt out of the imperial race as well.