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Started by Martinus, April 13, 2013, 10:10:22 AM

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Martinus

April 13, 2013, 10:10:22 AM
Ok, so what's up with so many Porkchops on various online forums (especially history or game oriented) referring to historical monarchs of Portugal as "Dom XYZ"?

Is this some sort of weird affectation from a bunch of nationalists or does this have a deeper meaning? I mean where people refer to Elizabeth I, they are not writing it as "HRH Elizabeth" and even Catholics do not refer to historical Popes as, eg. His Holiness Alexander VI.

Razgovory

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April 13, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
Dom XYZ?  What are you talking about?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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The Brain

#2
April 13, 2013, 10:25:39 AM
It's a BDSM thing.
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CountDeMoney

#3
April 13, 2013, 10:34:40 AM
Since when does a a gay Polish lawyer have the moral high ground to use the term "porkchop"?

Razgovory

#4
April 13, 2013, 10:35:34 AM
I'm guessing that "Dom" is the Portuguese version of the Spanish "Don".  If so it's likely similar to English "Sir", "Lord" or "Mister".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Duque de Bragança

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April 13, 2013, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 13, 2013, 10:35:34 AM
I'm guessing that "Dom" is the Portuguese version of the Spanish "Don".  If so it's likely similar to English "Sir", "Lord" or "Mister".

Razgovory guesses correctly. It came from the latin DOMINVS. It's basically a title for nobles only, unlike the feminine " Dona".

PS: it's not only porkchop, some religious orders use it as well cf. Dom Pérignon ;)

Razgovory

#6
April 13, 2013, 10:51:01 AM
Three years of Latin pay off! :punk:
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Syt

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April 13, 2013, 10:58:09 AM
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Martinus

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April 13, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
Jesus you guys are morons. I realize what it means. I just wonder why Portuguese drop it in front of names of historical monarchs in casual conversations.

Eddie Teach

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April 13, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
English speakers use the convention as well, e.g. Sir Walter Raleigh.
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Admiral Yi

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April 13, 2013, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 13, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
Jesus you guys are morons. I realize what it means. I just wonder why Portuguese drop it in front of names of historical monarchs in casual conversations.

Is it any different than Queen Elizabeth or Kaiser Wilhelm?

Duque de Bragança

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April 13, 2013, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 13, 2013, 12:02:05 PM

Is it any different than Queen Elizabeth or Kaiser Wilhelm?

Nope, if somewhat vaguer.

Martinus

#12
April 13, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 13, 2013, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 13, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
Jesus you guys are morons. I realize what it means. I just wonder why Portuguese drop it in front of names of historical monarchs in casual conversations.

Is it any different than Queen Elizabeth or Kaiser Wilhelm?

Well, I wouldn't say "Krol Casimir" or "Krolowa Jadwiga" when speaking in English.

The Brain

#13
April 13, 2013, 03:00:09 PM
Has any Portuguese ever spoken in English?
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Scipio

#14
April 13, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 13, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
Jesus you guys are morons. I realize what it means. I just wonder why Portuguese drop it in front of names of historical monarchs in casual conversations.
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