Question to Porkchops

[Razgovory]

Jesus you guys are morons. I realize what it means. I just wonder why Portuguese drop it in front of names of historical monarchs in casual conversations.

You mean like the English, "Mr."?

[Martim Silva]

Jesus you guys are morons. I realize what it means. I just wonder why Portuguese drop it in front of names of historical monarchs in casual conversations.

BECAUSE IT REMAINS IN CURRENT USE.

"Dom" is indeed the abbreviation of 'Dominvus', and is shortened in writing to 'D.' (as in 'Dom Fernando' is written 'D. Fernando').

It means that, unlike the name 'senhor' (which means 'senior', or 'lord of the household', not necessarily a noble and used for any adult male), its holder is/was indeed a title-holder of power and influence.

It is not restricted to nobles; the clergy also uses it, from Bishop and above. The current Cardinal-Patricarch of Lisbon, D. José Policarpo, is an example. Here is how he is referred to:

http://www.agencia.ecclesia.pt/cgi-bin/noticia.pl?id=94702

D. José Policarpo projeta novo pontificado

Also, you *have* to use the "Dom" when addressing these title-holders. Not doing so denotes extreme lack of respect, as you are lowering them to the rank of a commoner. To the point that you *would* be asked to leave the premises.

[garbon]

BECAUSE IT REMAINS IN CURRENT USE.

From Mart's most recent post his critique stems from the fact that it doesn't really have a purpose in a conversation in English. Doesn't generally suggest anything that you've listed below.