BoJo torn apart in BBC morning programme

[Valmy]

Who cares about the popular vote?

Usually the people who win it but fail to carry the election.

Eh Labor still got less than 50% in 1951.  Besides it is not a national election but by constituencies so the meaning of the popular vote is a little weird.  I mean there could be people who might vote for Churchill to be PM but just disliked the local Tory candidate so voted Labor instead...and vice versa.

[Jacob]

Eh Labor still got less than 50% in 1951.  Besides it is not a national election but by constituencies so the meaning of the popular vote is a little weird.  I mean there could be people who might vote for Churchill to be PM but just disliked the local Tory candidate so voted Labor instead...and vice versa.

Uh... okay?

[Valmy]

Uh... okay?

So I think the meaning of the popular vote is a little different when it is not a national election but a series of small elections with local factors.  I mean we do not even keep these kind of records for our Congressional Elections, but granted they would be even more meaningless since there are so many uncontested seats.

[Gups]

Eh Labor still got less than 50% in 1951.  Besides it is not a national election but by constituencies so the meaning of the popular vote is a little weird.  I mean there could be people who might vote for Churchill to be PM but just disliked the local Tory candidate so voted Labor instead...and vice versa.

Works the other way round here Valmy. People vote for a party not for the local candidate (who may swing 2-5% at most). Of course, in those days it wasn't just about who was leader either althgouh the Troy campaign in 1945 was heavily focussed on Churchill.

[Jacob]

Uh... okay?

So I think the meaning of the popular vote is a little different when it is not a national election but a series of small elections with local factors.  I mean we do not even keep these kind of records for our Congressional Elections, but granted they would be even more meaningless since there are so many uncontested seats.

Sure. No argument from me. I was making a way more general comment

[The Brain]

Interviewer comes across as a retarded douche.

[Valmy]

Works the other way round here Valmy. People vote for a party not for the local candidate (who may swing 2-5% at most). Of course, in those days it wasn't just about who was leader either althgouh the Troy campaign in 1945 was heavily focussed on Churchill.

Wow so what is the point of having a constituency or a representative?  Seems like even having local elections he would be more beholden to the party rather than his constituents which sort of goes against the point of having a system like this.  Or...perhaps not.  2-5% can be pretty signficiant.

[The Brain]

the Troy campaign in 1945

[Malthus]

the Troy campaign in 1945

The Trojans were simply not ready for Shermans. 

[The Brain]

Ze Shermans are coming!