Korea Thread: Liberal Moon Jae In Elected

Started by jimmy olsen, March 25, 2013, 09:57:54 PM

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lustindarkness

I would bet "something" will happen, not sure what that something will be. I would also bet the response will be more than just words and sanctions this time.
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I don't think a guy who says "cool beans" has much room to cast aspersions on others' language choices.

Berkut

So at what point does a threat become a causus belli for pre-emptive action?
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derspiess

Quote from: Berkut on April 04, 2013, 12:37:14 PM
So at what point does a threat become a causus belli for pre-emptive action?

IMO it happened sometime last week.  Not that I want it to happen yet, but I think we'd be justified.
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Jacob

Quote from: Berkut on April 04, 2013, 12:37:14 PM
So at what point does a threat become a causus belli for pre-emptive action?

When you need a CB and the calculus for a pre-emptive action is in your favour both politically and militarily.

Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2013, 12:39:53 PMIMO it happened sometime last week.  Not that I want it to happen yet, but I think we'd be justified.

I think last week there were moments where it could have been justified, but it would have had to be in the moment - i.e. "they're about to do something, HIT THEM FIRST!"

Now it seems that they're not about to do something other than talk and posture, so the CB for events last week seem a little stale.

derspiess

Quote from: Jacob on April 04, 2013, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2013, 12:39:53 PMIMO it happened sometime last week.  Not that I want it to happen yet, but I think we'd be justified.

I think last week there were moments where it could have been justified, but it would have had to be in the moment - i.e. "they're about to do something, HIT THEM FIRST!"

Now it seems that they're not about to do something other than talk and posture, so the CB for events last week seem a little stale.

Unless/until the threats are officially rescinded by the DPRK the CB remains IMO.
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Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2013, 12:45:01 PMUnless/until the threats are officially rescinded by the DPRK the CB remains IMO.

... that takes me back to the answer I gave Berkut :)

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CountDeMoney

I wonder if they torpedo another ship whether the ROKs are actually going to man up about it this time.

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Quote from: Jacob on April 04, 2013, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 04, 2013, 12:39:53 PMIMO it happened sometime last week.  Not that I want it to happen yet, but I think we'd be justified.

I think last week there were moments where it could have been justified, but it would have had to be in the moment - i.e. "they're about to do something, HIT THEM FIRST!"

Now it seems that they're not about to do something other than talk and posture, so the CB for events last week seem a little stale.

I think it depends on what they are doing with those missiles on the coast.  If the US sees them being prepared for launch, I think an airstrike on those missiles is acceptable.  If the Norks had chosen to hold hostage hundreds of South Korean civilians on Wednesday, that would have been a CB.
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