NCAA football, 2013-14

[MadBurgerMaker]

Well I guess people don't think as highly of your team as I do.  Is that all you've got though?  The Vegas spread?

E: Wait, so....it was Arizona -25?  30 at the half then eventually cruising to a 20-25 point win with the backups in isn't exactly unheard of, is it?  For comparison, I'm seeing Oklahoma State -28.5. 

[Berkut]

Right, so "everyone" thought Arizona would be up 30 at the half. I think the Vegas spread is pretty good at refuting the claim that "everyone" thought they would be up by even more than the game spread at half time. It is in fact, "all I've got" but like all the states I've pointed out, it is considerably more than you've got, since all you've got is a foul mouth and a temper.

Yep, that sure does prove your point.

Arizona won the game by exactly what was expected. They were up at the half by about what the spread expected.

That game was never close after the initial drive, the talking heads who made their comments were wrong, which is no big deal, and the only reason we are even talking about it still is how funny it is that you went all emorage over me pointing out that they, and you, were wrong.

It is a cliche that the "game was close than the score". Sometimes it is a correct cliche, and sometimes not. This time, as I proved with stats and numbers and such, was the latter case.

But again, that is not nearly as interesting as you getting all hysterical over it. Keep on keeping on, it really is fun. How soon do you start cussing and swearing?

[MadBurgerMaker]

No one is getting hysterical over it, you just brought it up again for no reason, so it must be bothering you. 

But yeah, if you're trying to use the Vegas spread and a comment from me about how I thought they'd be winning by more before the game, and that's all you got, then I don't know what to tell you, except that maybe you should move on.

The Pac-12 Network guys were exactly right when they said it could have been closer than it was.  This doesn't mean that the score was really close.  You get that, right?  They were talking about a hypothetical situation where UTSA doesn't make those mistakes and we're looking at a 24-14 or 17-14 score at the half.  The pointed out that the two teams were only separated by 30 or 40 total yards of O at the half and all that.  These are valid points that you still haven't countered, most certainly not with stats, because those are the stats.  UTSA was mistake prone and unable to capitalize on those numbers they put up.  Arizona wasn't.  You can see those mistakes in the penalties and, for example, that hilariously bad throw for an INT.

As a side note, if you don't want me to start "cursing and swearing," you probably shouldn't call me a douchebag, so maybe you should pump the brakes on that garbage right now.  Post 388, if you're curious.  Now, I'll admit, I did call grumbler a douche in much the same way, but that was last year, and grumbler isn't you, is he?

[Berkut]

I brought it up again because it was funny when you got so mad that you started cussing and swearing the first time you were proven wrong.

I am not going to rehash proving them and you wrong, the numbers are all still there, and anyone who actually understands football can see that they were wrong.

You doubled down on the "everyone thought they would be winning by 30 at the half" comment, which, again, was totally wrong. As proven by the actual spread, which is in fact the numeric determinant of what in fact "everyone" who actually knows anything about football actually thinks. Arizona ended up winning by exactly the spread, so apparently "everyone" other than you pretty much knew what was expected, and that is exactly what happened.

I've countered every point that matters, which isn't saying much, but no matter.

Watching you get so bent out of shape over such a throw away comment is much more amusing than anything else. You just cannot let it go, can you?

[Berkut]

As a side note, if you don't want me to start "cursing and swearing," you probably shouldn't call me a douchebag, so maybe you should pump the brakes on that garbage right now.  Post 388, if you're curious.  Now, I'll admit, I did call grumbler a douche in much the same way, but that was last year, and grumbler isn't you, is he?

As a side, side note, if you don't want to be called a douchebag, don't act like a douchebag. See the post that I quoted you on. You acted like a complete douchebag after I pointed out, rather politely I might add, that you and the talking heads were wrong, and that Arizona had no real trouble with UTSA, and that it didn't mean much.

I specifically said I had no idea if Arizona was any good, and you started in with "Okay dude, whatever.  Arizona is awesome.  You are awesome.  You are right, and all the guys on the TV box are wrong. "

And of course all that bullshit about me saying they were playing USC or something. Which of course I never said anything of the kind.

[MadBurgerMaker]

I brought it up again because it was funny when you got so mad that you started cussing and swearing the first time you were proven wrong.

Again, post 388.  That's not my name there calling someone a douchebag.  That's yours.

I am not going to rehash proving them and you wrong, the numbers are all still there, and anyone who actually understands football can see that they were wrong.

I really did just point out the stats, and still all you're saying is "the numbers are there."  They are, that's why the PAC12N guys, and now me, are actually pointing them out.

You doubled down on the "everyone thought they would be winning by 30 at the half" comment, which, again, was totally wrong. As proven by the actual spread, which is in fact the numeric determinant of what in fact "everyone" who actually knows anything about football actually thinks. Arizona ended up winning by exactly the spread, so apparently "everyone" other than you pretty much knew what was expected, and that is exactly what happened.

I doubled down on it?  It was what I was expecting, and again, I'm not really sure what you're trying to prove with this particular line of argument, since all you know about it is what I was expecting at halftime, instead of the entire game.  The first time I mentioned that was like two posts ago though, so maybe you shouldn't really latch on to that, when this whole thing is about what PAC12 representatives said.

I've countered every point that matters, which isn't saying much, but no matter.

"They're wrong" doesn't really seem to work though.

Watching you get so bent out of shape over such a throw away comment is much more amusing than anything else. You just cannot let it go, can you?

I don't know, you tell me.  You're the one who brought it all back up in the first place.

E:  I guess since you're freaking out about the 30 point lead at the half comment, I should note that I figured this game would be more like the Oklahoma State game.  Huge lead at the half for Arizona, then UTSA makes some moves against the backups and makes it semi-respectable (and maybe beat the spread like against OSU).

[MadBurgerMaker]

As a side, side note, if you don't want to be called a douchebag, don't act like a douchebag. See the post that I quoted you on. You acted like a complete douchebag after I pointed out, rather politely I might add, that you and the talking heads were wrong, and that Arizona.


I specifically said I had no idea if Arizona was any good, and you started in with "Okay dude, whatever.  Arizona is awesome.  You are awesome.  You are right, and all the guys on the TV box are wrong. "

If you don't want to be called a jerkoff, don't act like a jerkoff?  But yeah, those guys were right with their hypothetical scenario.  Just because you got butthurt about it and didn't like it doesn't change that.  Or, and answer honestly, would you be talking about this even a little bit if it was 17-14 at the half, like they were saying? 

Why is your font getting smaller and smaller?  Are you just slamming around on the keyboard while telling me I'm all mad or whatever?

[MadBurgerMaker]

For Ed:



I feel bad for laughing.  That poor guy just got caught in the wrong place.  Was he okay?

[dps]

E:

Thought I posted pretty much this comment before.  Maybe I posted it in the wrong thread?

You mean the whole thing about Mack or the "criminal if they don't shut him down" post?  If you're thinking about Mack, I haven't seen it the NCAA thread here, but Ash has "only" had the concussion since the BYU game two weeks ago, and just got "cleared," or supposedly cleared...I think Wednesday or Thursday.  He wasn't on the sidelines for the Ole Miss beatdown, supposedly because the noise and lights were a problem for him, so it wouldn't have been in last years thread, at least.  Maybe in the NFL thread?

No, not that one, but the follow-up about overruling the medical staff.

[CountDeMoney]

I feel bad for laughing.  That poor guy just got caught in the wrong place.  Was he okay?

He did the right thing by stopping, dropping and rolling.

That's Berkut in another 15 years.

[sbr]

I wonder if tv talking heads have ever said a game is closer than it looks to keep people from changing the channel.

[CountDeMoney]

Meh, the NFL is a bit different, where the pros will give up when they're losing and the leaders will sit pat (except Belichick, who will run up the score), but I don't fall for that in college ball.  A 21-point swing in 3 minutes could happen at any time in college ball.  That's part of what makes it so awesome.

[Ed Anger]

I feel bad for laughing.  That poor guy just got caught in the wrong place.  Was he okay?

They said Kenny Guiton checked on him and he was up waddling for the PAT.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Did that ref bounce off another guy offscreen before pingponging between 2 and 19?

No, not that one, but the follow-up about overruling the medical staff.

Oh, no, I don't remember seeing that here.

I wonder if tv talking heads have ever said a game is closer than it looks to keep people from changing the channel.

Nah, it wasn't that much of a blowout to make the fans of the two teams get bored and switch for good, but the outcome wasn't ever in doubt. They weren't saying anything like UTSA should have had the lead or could win this game or anything like that.  More of a wtf is Arizona doing type deal and UTSA doing better than expected (e: They were mostly/only really talking about UTSA's two 11 play drives and the total yardage between the two teams only being like 30-50 yards apart).

vv Ah okay, it just looked like he was flying in after getting popped by someone else vv

[Ed Anger]

The ump. got in the way of Hall in the open field. He was stiff armed by 2(Jordan hall) then ran over by the A&M kid. It was hilarious live.