Poles to bring the case for the CoFSM before the ECHR

[Valmy]

I dont think you understand the concept of Gerrymandering.  But since it has a long tradition in US politics perhaps I should give you the benefit of the doubt and realize that perhaps you thinks such a thing is acceptable and normal.

What does being acceptable or normal to me have to do with whether it is democratic?  What exactly are the requirements for something being democratic?  The lawmakers pass laws you think are normal and acceptable?

[Grey Fox]

Something is democratic when they foster to the concept of democracy, will of the majority of people.

Wether directly,indirectly or both count could be argued for all sides.

[crazy canuck]

I dont think you understand the concept of Gerrymandering.  But since it has a long tradition in US politics perhaps I should give you the benefit of the doubt and realize that perhaps you thinks such a thing is acceptable and normal.

What does being acceptable or normal to me have to do with whether it is democratic?  What exactly are the requirements for something being democratic?  The lawmakers pass laws you think are normal and acceptable?

I am just struck by the fact that you dont think there is anything wrong with Gerrymandering which led me to believe you either dont know what the word means or that it has become an acceptable practice where you live.

fyi Gerrymandering isnt merely changing electoral boundaries.  It is changing them in an effort to gain a particular political advantage so as affect the outcome of elections.

[Valmy]

I dont think you understand the concept of Gerrymandering.  But since it has a long tradition in US politics perhaps I should give you the benefit of the doubt and realize that perhaps you thinks such a thing is acceptable and normal.

What does being acceptable or normal to me have to do with whether it is democratic?  What exactly are the requirements for something being democratic?  The lawmakers pass laws you think are normal and acceptable?

I am just struck by the fact that you dont think there is anything wrong with Gerrymandering which led me to believe you either dont know what the word means or that it has become an acceptable practice where you live.

fyi Gerrymandering isnt merely changing electoral boundaries.  It is changing them in an effort to gain a particular political advantage so as affect the outcome of elections.

I think there is alot wrong with gerrymandering.  I just think the way we gerrymander is democratic if against the spirit of how they should be redrawing the districts.

[crazy canuck]

I think there is alot wrong with gerrymandering.  I just think the way we gerrymander is democratic if against the spirit of how they should be redrawing the districts.

So you think there is a correct way to Gerrymander?  See when you say stuff like this I gotta think you really dont know what the word means.  By definition it is undemocratic.

[Razgovory]

Just to be clear here, are you considering redrawing any district in response to a census, "Gerrymandering"?

[Valmy]

So you think there is a correct way to Gerrymander?  See when you say stuff like this I gotta think you really dont know what the word means.  By definition it is undemocratic.

Um...is just drawing districts gerrymandering?

Clearly I do not know what the word means.

[crazy canuck]

Just to be clear here, are you considering redrawing any district in response to a census, "Gerrymandering"?

No.

[crazy canuck]

So you think there is a correct way to Gerrymander?  See when you say stuff like this I gotta think you really dont know what the word means.  By definition it is undemocratic.

Um...is just drawing districts gerrymandering?

Clearly I do not know what the word means.

Clearly

[Razgovory]

Okay could you give us a definition for the word?

[Admiral Yi]

You guys honestly don't know what gerrymander means? 

It means the drawing of electoral borders (often with bizarre shapes) to maximize electoral advantage.

[Razgovory]

I'm not certain that CC and the rest of us are using the same definition.

[Martinus]

You guys honestly don't know what gerrymander means? 

It means the drawing of electoral borders (often with bizarre shapes) to maximize electoral advantage.

Which is a corruption of democracy hence I agree with CC.

[crazy canuck]

I'm not certain that CC and the rest of us are using the same definition.

One thing is for sure.  You and Valmy dont appear to have any idea what it is.  Go back and re-read what I said it was.

[Valmy]

You guys honestly don't know what gerrymander means? 

It means the drawing of electoral borders (often with bizarre shapes) to maximize electoral advantage.

Well that was what I thought the definition was.  Clearly I was wrong.