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Started by Iormlund, March 05, 2013, 05:04:50 PM

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Josephus

Quote from: garbon on April 08, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on March 05, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
I guess some of the more 'enthusiastic' contributors to this thread will demanding the utmost respect is shown in the future Thatcher RIP thread ?

Funny that.

Admittedly I didn't look through the whole thread, but I didn't see CC or I acting 'enthusiastic' in this thread - though we both lambasted you in the Thatcher one. :contract:

No. I wasn't necessarily saying you and CC did...but just that you didn't seem to criticize people for acting enthusiastic  in this thread, only in the Thatcher one.  My point was it goes both ways.
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Josephus

I always thought of starting a dead pool thread...but I guess some of you would find that offensive? If we just stick with celebrities and news makers I think it's fair game.
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Liep

Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 04:20:30 PM
I always thought of starting a dead pool thread...but I guess some of you would find that offensive? If we just stick with celebrities and news makers I think it's fair game.

How does a dead pool work?
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Josephus

We each pick, say, 3 to 5 celebrities whom we think will snuff it this year. We get one point at the end of the year for each one we guess right. Winner is one with most total points.
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garbon

Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 08, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on March 05, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
I guess some of the more 'enthusiastic' contributors to this thread will demanding the utmost respect is shown in the future Thatcher RIP thread ?

Funny that.

Admittedly I didn't look through the whole thread, but I didn't see CC or I acting 'enthusiastic' in this thread - though we both lambasted you in the Thatcher one. :contract:

No. I wasn't necessarily saying you and CC did...but just that you didn't seem to criticize people for acting enthusiastic  in this thread, only in the Thatcher one.  My point was it goes both ways.

Yeah but, at least for me, that stems from what I said in the other thread. I've different reactions and concerns about criticism for someone who was a net positive vs. net negative.
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Scipio

Nah.  Hug your photo of Hugo, and make fun of Thatcher all you want.  You're still wrong.
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Josephus

Quote from: garbon on April 08, 2013, 04:35:33 PM
Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 08, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: mongers on March 05, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
I guess some of the more 'enthusiastic' contributors to this thread will demanding the utmost respect is shown in the future Thatcher RIP thread ?

Funny that.

Admittedly I didn't look through the whole thread, but I didn't see CC or I acting 'enthusiastic' in this thread - though we both lambasted you in the Thatcher one. :contract:

No. I wasn't necessarily saying you and CC did...but just that you didn't seem to criticize people for acting enthusiastic  in this thread, only in the Thatcher one.  My point was it goes both ways.

Yeah but, at least for me, that stems from what I said in the other thread. I've different reactions and concerns about criticism for someone who was a net positive vs. net negative.

But net positive v. net negative is one's opinion and not set in stone like, say, climate change.
There are some who say Chavez did good and Thatcher was the devil incarnate. You can't justifiably call me out in that other thread, when the same went on in this thread without indignation.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Josephus

Quote from: Scipio on April 08, 2013, 04:39:34 PM
Nah.  Hug your photo of Hugo, and make fun of Thatcher all you want.  You're still wrong.

As long as I can make fun of Thatcher then that's fine. That's all I'm asking. ;)
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

derspiess

Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 04:46:33 PM
Quote from: Scipio on April 08, 2013, 04:39:34 PM
Nah.  Hug your photo of Hugo, and make fun of Thatcher all you want.  You're still wrong.

As long as I can make fun of Thatcher then that's fine. That's all I'm asking. ;)

You're free to do what you want.  And we're free to think of you as an ass.
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garbon

Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 04:45:35 PM
But net positive v. net negative is one's opinion and not set in stone like, say, climate change.
There are some who say Chavez did good and Thatcher was the devil incarnate. You can't justifiably call me out in that other thread, when the same went on in this thread without indignation.

No, I disagree on that. Anyone who says what Chavez did is net good is clearly a) not thinking correctly and b) is not considering long term effects.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Josephus

The same holds true for Thatcher.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on April 08, 2013, 04:47:55 PMYou're free to do what you want.  And we're free to think of you as an ass.

Right back atcha sunshine :cheers:

Berkut

Quote from: Josephus on April 08, 2013, 05:04:20 PM
The same holds true for Thatcher.

Whether or not Thatcher was good or bad is a question of ones politics, mostly.

Not the case with Chavez, unless one's politics are at the level of fruitcake basket lunacy.
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Admiral Yi

One could easily hold the position that income equality is the greatest single good, trumping all others, and applaud Chavez' success in that field.

I would think they're very wrong, but it would be consistent.