The Empire Strikes Out - Inside the Battle of Hoth

[Tonitrus]

I am sure if things had gotten too bad for the Rebel fleet, the Ewoks could have just started catapulting boulders into the Star Destroyers, and the Empire wouldn't have a chance.

[Syt]

About Star Wars vs. Star Trek - I never really saw them in competition with one another.

Star Trek explores classic sci-fi themes: how technology influences life and society, and, in its better moments, an examination of the human condition.

Star Wars was conceived as a modern mythology that while taking place in space aims to tell a universal story with well known tropes and archetypes; it's in that respect similar to Lord of the Rings. And just like Lord of the Rings, there's no reason not to fill out the backdrop or tell new stories in this general setting. Where it comes apart for me, though, is trying to explain the universe in scientific terms. Yes, it should be internally (somewhat) consistent. For that I don't need to know about midichlorians or what the relative acceleration properties of an A-Wing vs. a TIE-Fighter are, or what the tracking speed of a Death Star turbolaser is.

Much like I don't need to know at what temperature the One Ring was forged, or what the supply chain of the Uruk-Hai was.

Star Wars isn't about the technobabble.

[Viking]

Much like I don't need to know at what temperature the One Ring was forged, or what the supply chain of the Uruk-Hai was.

Somebody's working on a variant of CNA for LOTR where  Uruk-Hai use up extra supply points for extra rat consumption and if enough rats aren't available they eat goblins.

[The Brain]

Star Wars isn't about the technobabble.

Tell that to the midi-chlorians.

[Syt]

Btw, in case anyone ever wondered why the Death Star Mk. 2 was operational within a few years, while the smaller Death Star Mk. 1 took from the end of Ep. III to becoming operational in Ep. IV (19 year later):

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DS-1_Orbital_Battle_Station

However, the project nearly ended before it began. Although much of the technology of the Death Star was impressive, actually building it proved to be more difficult than anyone imagined. The project was dragged out over a nineteen year time period as labor union disputes along with the supply and design problems slowed the construction. Efforts were not helped by repeated—albeit usually unsuccessful—sabotage efforts. Actual effective work on the station took less than two years, and involved resources from every corner of the Empire being funneled to complete the project.

[Admiral Yi]

or what the supply chain of the Uruk-Hai was.

Less the Uruk-Hai, since Isengard is relatively fertile, but did you never wonder where the orcs of Mordor got their food from?  There's nothing growing there.

[Viking]

Apparently the Galactic Empire neither had the Rush Act or Orin Zento

[Viking]

or what the supply chain of the Uruk-Hai was.

Less the Uruk-Hai, since Isengard is relatively fertile, but did you never wonder where the orcs of Mordor got their food from?  There's nothing growing there.

mushrooms

[Admiral Yi]

mushrooms

Requires moisture.  Mordor is dry.

And orcs are witnessed by Frodo and Bilbo eating nasty bread.

[The Brain]

or what the supply chain of the Uruk-Hai was.

Less the Uruk-Hai, since Isengard is relatively fertile, but did you never wonder where the orcs of Mordor got their food from?  There's nothing growing there.

If you bothered to read the book (do you kids learn to read these days?) you'd know that the food came from the vast farmlands around Lake Nurnen.

[CountDeMoney]

Less the Uruk-Hai, since Isengard is relatively fertile, but did you never wonder where the orcs of Mordor got their food from?  There's nothing growing there.

Considering the amount of workplace violence, each other occasionally isn't outside the realm of possibilities.

[Razgovory]

mushrooms

Requires moisture.  Mordor is dry.

And orcs are witnessed by Frodo and Bilbo eating nasty bread.

Southern Mordor had some farms.  The area they walk through in the books is plateau of Gorogoroth, which has little vegetable growth.

[grumbler]

It's a lot more pleasing aesthetically, and the core characters of the original trilogy are more distinct and enjoyable than their equivalents in Trek. 

I agree that the characters merit discussion.  I simply note that the setting is nothing but a fantasy, with any pretense to logic and "science" bolted on because the creators belatedly decided that they were going to pretend that this was an intellectual work.  Playing along with that obvious nonsense seems foolish to me, especially when there are superior works that are designed with the idea that fans want to take off the cover and see how the pieces work.

[viper37]

Shields don't seem especially useful for the fighters.  Even with them, a good burst of fire seemed to be fatal.  Besides, do we know that the TIE fighters don't have shields?

you can see it in the movies too, as well as in the game.  One good shot for a TIE fighter and it's dead.  An X-Wing can take more punishment.

[viper37]

Btw, in case anyone ever wondered why the Death Star Mk. 2 was operational within a few years, while the smaller Death Star Mk. 1 took from the end of Ep. III to becoming operational in Ep. IV (19 year later):

actually, the Death Star was never meant to be unique