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Russia in Trouble this Year?

Started by Jacob, February 12, 2013, 04:52:46 PM

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mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2013, 06:28:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 13, 2013, 12:42:37 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 13, 2013, 12:39:17 PM
WTF is the significance of a red envelope?

Red is good luck for the new year and it has money in it usually.  I think that is about it right Jake?

What is the one where they light fake money on fire?

Raz, you're a little ahead of yourself, that's investors in dollars and sterling in 5 years time.  :bowler:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Jacob

Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2013, 06:28:57 PMWhat is the one where they light fake money on fire?

That's at funerals, anniversaries of deaths, and I expect there are local holidays/festivals as well.

You're sending money (and other goods - you can get fake houses, suits, watches, and all kinds of other things too) to your friends and relatives in the afterlife.

Queequeg

Quote from: Viking on February 13, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Pretty much all years in history have been bad for Russia. The entire Chinese zodiac is bad for Russia.
Russia spent a plurality of the last century as one of the two most powerful nations on earth, and all of it as one of the preeminent global powers. 

I doubt it would be this year, but Kremlinology is anything but an exact science.  I don't expect the Olympics to go very well, and frankly I think the Putin administration is starting to really stink. 
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Neil

Quote from: Queequeg on February 13, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Russia spent a plurality of the last century as one of the two most powerful nations on earth, and all of it as one of the preeminent global powers.
Nope.  They weren't a global power after 1991, nor were they immediately after the revolution.  And preeminent?  They certainly lost a lot of power and prestige both after the Russo-Japanese War and throughout the 20s and 30s.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Viking

Quote from: Queequeg on February 13, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: Viking on February 13, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Pretty much all years in history have been bad for Russia. The entire Chinese zodiac is bad for Russia.
Russia spent a plurality of the last century as one of the two most powerful nations on earth, and all of it as one of the preeminent global powers. 

I doubt it would be this year, but Kremlinology is anything but an exact science.  I don't expect the Olympics to go very well, and frankly I think the Putin administration is starting to really stink.

Russia being a Superpower is bad for Russia and bad for the World :contract:
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on February 13, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on February 13, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Russia spent a plurality of the last century as one of the two most powerful nations on earth, and all of it as one of the preeminent global powers.
Nope.  They weren't a global power after 1991, nor were they immediately after the revolution.  And preeminent?  They certainly lost a lot of power and prestige both after the Russo-Japanese War and throughout the 20s and 30s.

They certainly weaken post-1991, but then it's not like there are many other major powers.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 13, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on February 13, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Russia spent a plurality of the last century as one of the two most powerful nations on earth, and all of it as one of the preeminent global powers.
Nope.  They weren't a global power after 1991, nor were they immediately after the revolution.  And preeminent?  They certainly lost a lot of power and prestige both after the Russo-Japanese War and throughout the 20s and 30s.
They certainly weaken post-1991, but then it's not like there are many other major powers.
Remember how badly they were doing after the collapse of the Soviet Union?  Russia's ability to project power outside her borders was pretty much nil.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

DGuller

Quote from: Jacob on February 13, 2013, 07:44:53 PM
You're sending money (and other goods - you can get fake houses, suits, watches, and all kinds of other things too) to your friends and relatives in the afterlife.
:hmm: So, the moment the relatives become unable to raise a fuss, you send them the fake stuff?  Those Chinese sure are enterprising.

Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on February 13, 2013, 09:10:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 13, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on February 13, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Russia spent a plurality of the last century as one of the two most powerful nations on earth, and all of it as one of the preeminent global powers.
Nope.  They weren't a global power after 1991, nor were they immediately after the revolution.  And preeminent?  They certainly lost a lot of power and prestige both after the Russo-Japanese War and throughout the 20s and 30s.
They certainly weaken post-1991, but then it's not like there are many other major powers.
Remember how badly they were doing after the collapse of the Soviet Union?  Russia's ability to project power outside her borders was pretty much nil.

Yeah, and what were the other countries with  the ability to project power across the world?  You have maybe three who can reliably do it.  The US, the UK, and France.  Even a crippled man stands tall amongst a world of dwarfs.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Josquius

Quote from: Viking on February 13, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on February 13, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: Viking on February 13, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
Pretty much all years in history have been bad for Russia. The entire Chinese zodiac is bad for Russia.
Russia spent a plurality of the last century as one of the two most powerful nations on earth, and all of it as one of the preeminent global powers. 

I doubt it would be this year, but Kremlinology is anything but an exact science.  I don't expect the Olympics to go very well, and frankly I think the Putin administration is starting to really stink.

Russia being a Superpower is bad for Russia and bad for the World :contract:


:yes:
Being a power is over-rated.
I'd much rather be born in piddly little Norway (for a random example) than in supposed world number 2 China. Or hell. The US.
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Neil

Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
Yeah, and what were the other countries with  the ability to project power across the world?  You have maybe three who can reliably do it.  The US, the UK, and France.  Even a crippled man stands tall amongst a world of dwarfs.
A crippled man isn't a 'preeminent power'.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on February 13, 2013, 07:44:53 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2013, 06:28:57 PMWhat is the one where they light fake money on fire?

That's at funerals, anniversaries of deaths, and I expect there are local holidays/festivals as well.

You're sending money (and other goods - you can get fake houses, suits, watches, and all kinds of other things too) to your friends and relatives in the afterlife.

I wonder what the exchange rates are.  Also, can the dead send money back, or is it just one way?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Viking

Quote from: Tyr on February 13, 2013, 10:19:19 PM

:yes:
Being a power is over-rated.
I'd much rather be born in piddly little Norway (for a random example) than in supposed world number 2 China. Or hell. The US.

I wouldn't know,  being born in England and all that....
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Josquius

Quote from: Viking on February 13, 2013, 10:24:03 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 13, 2013, 10:19:19 PM

:yes:
Being a power is over-rated.
I'd much rather be born in piddly little Norway (for a random example) than in supposed world number 2 China. Or hell. The US.

I wouldn't know,  being born in England and all that....
We're in the middle somewhere.
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Viking

Quote from: Tyr on February 13, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Viking on February 13, 2013, 10:24:03 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 13, 2013, 10:19:19 PM

:yes:
Being a power is over-rated.
I'd much rather be born in piddly little Norway (for a random example) than in supposed world number 2 China. Or hell. The US.

I wouldn't know,  being born in England and all that....
We're in the middle somewhere.

Britain was then and still is in the top 7 of world powers.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.