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Started by The Minsky Moment, February 04, 2013, 11:58:34 AM

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Martinus

#90
May 14, 2013, 10:50:25 AM
Also, they are not gay. They are wearing House Bolton's colors.  :P

garbon

#91
May 14, 2013, 10:52:38 AM
There's the door. Out!
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11B4V

#92
May 14, 2013, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 14, 2013, 09:07:22 AM
11B - see above. This is how it's done. :)

Right, well, terribly sorry old boy.  :blurgh:

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garbon

#93
May 14, 2013, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 14, 2013, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 14, 2013, 09:07:22 AM
11B - see above. This is how it's done. :)

Right, well, terribly sorry old boy.  :blurgh:



We all make mistakes. :)
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The Minsky Moment

#94
May 14, 2013, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: merithyn on May 14, 2013, 09:53:34 AM
How many states will it take before the Feds will make it law? I mean, I assume that's kind of what they're waiting on.

I dont think there will ever be a federal marriage law.
The real issue at the federal level is DOMA and we could get a ruling on that next month.
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garbon

#95
May 17, 2013, 10:19:25 AM


Hungary scores surprisingly high.
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Syt

#96
May 17, 2013, 10:27:39 AM Last Edit: May 17, 2013, 10:29:28 AM by Syt
Austria seems to score low on protection from hate speech/crime (18%), anti-discrimination laws (26%) and 40% in family recognition.

Germany scores only 5% in protection from hate speech/crime. Whereas Hungary scores pretty high in that field.

Country score sheets:

http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/publications/reports_and_other_materials/rainbow_europe/score_sheet
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Valmy

#97
May 17, 2013, 10:30:03 AM
Who knew Monaco was so anti-gay?  If I was a gay man in Monaco I would be so outraged I would move across the street to France.
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Sheilbh

#98
May 17, 2013, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 10:30:03 AM
Who knew Monaco was so anti-gay?  If I was a gay man in Monaco I would be so outraged I would move across the street to France.
It depends how rich a gay man I was :P

I was surprised by how low the Netherlands were and they fall down on protection against hate speech/crimes, anti-discrimination laws and gender laws. Hate speech/crime and gender recognition laws are also the UK's weakest areas apparently :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!

Syt

#99
May 17, 2013, 10:52:08 AM
I'm a bit unclear about the protection from hate crime/speech bit. Are they asking for specific laws covering LBGTI community?

My knowledge of the German judicial system is rusty, but IIRC the law itself doesn't distinguish whether an assault was a guy beating up his wife, a skin beating up a Turk or a homophobe beating up a gay person (though it may influence the judges on how they view the case, how severe the verdict will be etc.). So I guess that warrants a low score?

With hate speech - Germany has laws against inciting to violence, or libel, but AFAIK no special laws that restrict calling a homosexual a "Schwuchtel" ("fag"). And quite honestly, I'm rather against regulating too much what people can say. Let idiots unmask themselves with their statements.
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Syt

#100
May 22, 2013, 11:22:43 PM
The constitutional court in Croatia has kicked sexual ed out of the school curriculum after protests from enraged Catholics that it would teach that homosexuality is normal. Official reasoning: there should have been a public debate before adding this module to the curriculum.
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Martinus

#101
May 23, 2013, 12:17:48 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 22, 2013, 11:22:43 PM
The constitutional court in Croatia has kicked sexual ed out of the school curriculum after protests from enraged Catholics that it would teach that homosexuality is normal. Official reasoning: there should have been a public debate before adding this module to the curriculum.

And we are letting these shits into the EU?

fhdz

#102
May 23, 2013, 12:19:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 23, 2013, 12:17:48 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 22, 2013, 11:22:43 PM
The constitutional court in Croatia has kicked sexual ed out of the school curriculum after protests from enraged Catholics that it would teach that homosexuality is normal. Official reasoning: there should have been a public debate before adding this module to the curriculum.

And we are letting these shits into the EU?

They let Poles in, didn't they?
and the horse you rode in on

Martinus

#103
May 23, 2013, 12:22:22 AM Last Edit: May 23, 2013, 12:25:29 AM by Martinus
Quote from: fahdiz on May 23, 2013, 12:19:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 23, 2013, 12:17:48 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 22, 2013, 11:22:43 PM
The constitutional court in Croatia has kicked sexual ed out of the school curriculum after protests from enraged Catholics that it would teach that homosexuality is normal. Official reasoning: there should have been a public debate before adding this module to the curriculum.

And we are letting these shits into the EU?

They let Poles in, didn't they?

Hey, I have always been saying that had I not been a Pole, I would have opposed Poland's entry into the EU tooth and nail. But only because they once let in a bunch of troglodyte religious nutjobs which coincided with my personal interest, it does not mean they should be letting in all the other troglodyte religious nutjobs out there.

See, while I pride myself on holding strong personal convictions, I would never let them get in the way of my self-interest. See: foie gras bans, raising the taxes on the 1% etc. :P

fhdz

#104
May 23, 2013, 12:24:53 AM
I suppose there's the argument that bringing them into the fold will possibly hasten the moderation of their views rather than the opposite.
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