Iran claims to have launched a monkey into space

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jimmy olsen

If true, this bodes ill for peace in the upcoming year! :o

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50614548/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.UQbH6GckWHg

QuoteIran launches monkey into space: Report
There was no independent confirmation of the report, which quoted a defense ministry statement

By Yeganeh Torbati
updated 1 hour 56 minutes ago

DUBAI - Iran said on Monday it had launched a live monkey into space, seeking to show off missile systems that have alarmed the West because the technology could potentially be used to deliver a nuclear warhead.

The Defense Ministry announced the launch as world powers sought to agree a date and venue with Iran for resuming talks to resolve a standoff with the West over Tehran's contested nuclear program before it degenerates into a new Middle East war.

Efforts to nail down a new meeting have failed repeatedly and the powers fear Iran is exploiting the diplomatic vacuum to hone the means to produce nuclear weapons.

The Islamic Republic denies seeking weapons capability and says it seeks only electricity from its uranium enrichment so it can export more of its considerable oil wealth.

The powers have proposed new talks in February, a spokesman for the European Union's foreign policy chief said on Monday, hours after Russia urged all concerned to "stop behaving like children" and commit to a meeting.

Iran earlier in the day denied media reports of a major explosion at one of its most sensitive, underground enrichment plants, describing them as Western propaganda designed to influence the nuclear talks.

The Defense Ministry said the space launch of the monkey coincided "with the days of" the Prophet Mohammad's birthday, which was last week, but gave no date, according to a statement carried by the official news agency IRNA.

The launch was "another giant step" in space technology and biological research "which is the monopoly of a few countries", the statement said.

The small grey monkey was pictured strapped into a padded seat and being loaded into the Kavoshgar rocket dubbed "Pishgam" (Pioneer) which state media said reached a height of more than 120 km (75 miles).

"This shipment returned safely to Earth with the anticipated speed along with the live organism," Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi told the semi-official Fars news agency. "The launch of Kavoshgar and its retrieval is the first step towards sending humans into space in the next phase."

There was no independent confirmation of the launch.

Significant feat
The West worries that long-range ballistic technology used to propel Iranian satellites into orbit could be put to use dispatching nuclear warheads to a target.

Bruno Gruselle of France's Foundation for Strategic Research said that if the monkey launch report were true it would suggest a "quite significant" engineering feat by Iran.

"If you can show that you are able to protect a vehicle of this sort from re-entry, then you can probably protect a military warhead and make it survive the high temperatures and high pressures of re-entering," Gruselle said.

The monkey launch would be similar to sending up a satellite weighing some 2,000 kg (4,400 pounds), he said. Success would suggest a capacity to deploy a surface-to-surface missile with a range of a few thousand kilometers (miles).

Michael Elleman, a missile expert at the International Institute for Strategic Studies think-tank, said Iran had demonstrated "no new military or strategic capability" with the launch.

"Nonetheless, Iran has an ambitious space exploration program that includes the goal of placing a human in space in the next five or so years and a human-inhabited orbital capsule by the end of the decade," Elleman said. "Today's achievement is one step toward the goal, albeit a small one."

The Islamic Republic announced plans in 2011 to send a monkey into space, but that attempt was reported to have failed.

Nuclear-weapons capability requires three components - enough fissile material such as highly enriched uranium, a reliable weapons device miniaturized to fit into a missile cone, and an effective delivery system, such as a ballistic missile that can grow out of a space launch program.

Iran's efforts to develop and test ballistic missiles and build a space launch capability have contributed to Israeli calls for pre-emptive strikes on Iranian nuclear sites and billions of dollars of U.S. ballistic missile Defense spending.

Maneuvering over next talks
A spokesman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the powers had offered a February meeting to Iran, after a proposal to meet at the end of January was refused.

"Iran did not accept our offer to go to Istanbul on Jan. 28 and 29 and so we have offered new dates in February. We have continued to offer dates since December. We are disappointed the Iranians have not yet agreed," Michael Mann reporters.

He said Iranian negotiators had imposed new conditions for resuming talks and that EU powers were concerned this might be a stalling tactic. The last in a sporadic series of fruitless talks was held last June.

Iranian officials deny blame for the delays and say Western countries squandered opportunities for meetings by waiting until after the U.S. presidential election in November.

"We have always said that we are ready to negotiate until a result is reached and we have never broken off discussions," IRNA quoted Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi as saying.

Salehi has suggested holding the next round in Cairo but said the powers wanted another venue. He also said that Sweden, Kazakhstan and Switzerland had offered to host the talks.

In Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told a news conference: "We are ready to meet at any location as soon as possible. We believe the essence of our talks is far more important (than the site), and we hope that common sense will prevail and we will stop behaving like little children."

Ashton is overseeing diplomatic contacts on behalf of the powers hoping to persuade Tehran to stop higher-grade uranium enrichment and accept stricter U.N. inspections in return for civilian nuclear cooperation and relief from U.N. sanctions.

Iran denies Fordow blast
Reuters has been unable to verify reports since Friday of an explosion early last week at the underground Fordow bunker that some Israeli and Western media said wrought heavy damage.

"The false news of an explosion at Fordow is Western propaganda ahead of nuclear negotiations to influence their process and outcome," IRNA quoted deputy Iranian nuclear energy agency chief Saeed Shamseddin Bar Broudi as saying.

In late 2011 the plant at Fordow began producing uranium enriched to 20 percent fissile purity, well above the 3.5 percent level normally needed for nuclear power stations.

While such higher-grade enrichment remains nominally far below the 90 percent level required for an atomic bomb, nuclear proliferation experts say the 20 percent threshold represents the bulk of the time and effort involved in yielding weapons-grade material - if that were Iran's goal.

Tehran says its enhanced enrichment is to make fuel for a research reactor that produces isotopes for medical care.

Diplomats in Vienna, where the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency is based, said on Monday they had no knowledge of any incident at Fordow but were looking into the reports.

"I have heard and seen various reports but am unable to authenticate them," a senior diplomat in Vienna told Reuters.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, which regularly inspects declared Iranian nuclear sites including Fordow, had no immediate comment on the issue.

Iran has accused Israel and the United States of trying to sabotage its nuclear program with cyber attacks and assassinations of its nuclear scientists. Washington has denied any role in the killings while Israel has declined to comment.

(Additional reporting by William Maclean and Marcus George in Dubai, Justyna Pawlak in Brussels, Fredrik Dahl in Vienna; Writing by Mark Heinrich; Editing by Robin Pomeroy and Jon Hemming)

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Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 28, 2013, 01:52:03 PM
If true, this bodes ill for peace in the upcoming year! :o

It certainly bodes ill for Iranian monkeys.
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Quote from: Malthus on January 28, 2013, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 28, 2013, 01:52:03 PM
If true, this bodes ill for peace in the upcoming year! :o

It certainly bodes ill for Iranian monkeys.
A still image from an undated video footage released on Jan. 28 by Iran's state-run English language Press TV shows a monkey that was launched into space.


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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
That's just super.

Thought of you as soon as I saw that pic.

Anyway, that little guy's a celebrity now!  Allahu Akbar!
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I hate monkeys but that poor thing doesn't deserve that.  They've no shortage of jerkasses wanting to strap on a belt of explosives and charge a secular humanist Zionist, but none apparently willing to go up in a capsule.
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Is there any one to confirm this is actually true?
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derspiess

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 28, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
I hate monkeys but that poor thing doesn't deserve that.  They've no shortage of jerkasses wanting to strap on a belt of explosives and charge a secular humanist Zionist, but none apparently willing to go up in a capsule.

Maybe it was just a really small capsule?
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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: derspiess on January 28, 2013, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 28, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
I hate monkeys but that poor thing doesn't deserve that.  They've no shortage of jerkasses wanting to strap on a belt of explosives and charge a secular humanist Zionist, but none apparently willing to go up in a capsule.

Maybe it was just a really small capsule?
Are their no midget Shi'ite Jihadists?
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That monkey was probably their only rocket scientist to volunteer for the flight. :(
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derspiess

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 28, 2013, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 28, 2013, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 28, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
I hate monkeys but that poor thing doesn't deserve that.  They've no shortage of jerkasses wanting to strap on a belt of explosives and charge a secular humanist Zionist, but none apparently willing to go up in a capsule.

Maybe it was just a really small capsule?
Are their no midget Shi'ite Jihadists?

As small as that little monkey*?  Probably not.



*not referring to Ahmedinijibab
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I'd support Iran shooting Chihuahuas into space.
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