Elementary school shooting blame game

[merithyn]

There was a psychologist on NPR that was saying that the most effective way to end these kinds of tragedies isn't to ban guns, but rather for the media to refuse to agrandize the situations when they occur. Tell the story, but don't name the killer. Give no attention to him/her at all.

For that to work, however, all of the media would have to agree to it, which, as we know, will never happen. In addition, there are always those who need to know why. They'll dig to get the answer of who and why, and then publish it.

[Martinus]

There was a psychologist on NPR that was saying that the most effective way to end these kinds of tragedies isn't to ban guns, but rather for the media to refuse to agrandize the situations when they occur.

ok so it is fine if you bring poitics to this thread, but not when others do?

[11B4V]

There was a psychologist on NPR that was saying that the most effective way to end these kinds of tragedies isn't to ban guns, but rather for the media to refuse to agrandize the situations when they occur.

ok so it is fine if you bring poitics to this thread, but not when others do?

I dont see that as politics.

[Martinus]

She is blaming the media where others were blaming lax gun laws. I fail to see how one is not politics when the other is.

[The Brain]

She is blaming the media where others were blaming lax gun laws. I fail to see how one is not politics when the other is.

You lawyer?

[merithyn]

 

[Jacob]

In your view, Meri, are the media more or less responsible for the gun deaths than people who favour gun control?

[Maximus]

She is blaming the media where others were blaming lax gun laws. I fail to see how one is not politics when the other is.

I'm sure no one here is surprised by your failure.

[merithyn]

In your view, Meri, are the media more or less responsible for the gun deaths than people who favour gun control?

So you're going to just keep misconstruing what I said to suit your own purposes? Okay, so then there's no real point to respond to you. Why don't you just keep making up what you think I'm saying and then respond, and I'll go have a beer and read it later?

[Razgovory]

There was a psychologist on NPR that was saying that the most effective way to end these kinds of tragedies isn't to ban guns, but rather for the media to refuse to agrandize the situations when they occur. Tell the story, but don't name the killer. Give no attention to him/her at all.

For that to work, however, all of the media would have to agree to it, which, as we know, will never happen. In addition, there are always those who need to know why. They'll dig to get the answer of who and why, and then publish it.

I'm sure postmortem reporting is a major concern amongst those who are suicidal or psychotic.

[mongers]

Hm, I'm taking a different tack and suggesting this is a manifestation of certain cultural characteristics of a society.
As 11B4V and myself were discussing and as C.C. mention, it's not necessarily about gun laws, as it appears before we banned them, just one in a thousand Brits had a handgun, whereas 11B4V suggests the average is approaching unity in the US now.

That's a huge difference in societal norms and reasons for why people have these things. And not something I can either explain or comprehend.

[Jacob]

So you're going to just keep misconstruing what I said to suit your own purposes? Okay, so then there's no real point to respond to you. Why don't you just keep making up what you think I'm saying and then respond, and I'll go have a beer and read it later?

Which part am I misconstruing for my own purposes?

[merithyn]

At no time did I ever blame anyone for this shooting, except the gunman.

I don't blame the media for what happened, and I never said that I did. I said that aggrandizing what happened doesn't help the situation, but the media isn't going to not report the news. I also defended the need to document what happened by the media, though I lamented the need to get that information out as quickly as possible. The gentleman I discussed was on the news while he talked about this, and what he said was pertinent to the conversation that was taking place around what I said in the thread that this actually started in. Of course, you'd have to read my post in context to understand it, but Marti has now made that impossible. Not that you seem to care, anyway.

I never said that gun control was to blame. I said that people who fly off the handle spewing gun control propaganda without even knowing what the situation is HURTS the lobby for reasonable policies that can actually pass and that will actually do some good. And yes, I believe that they hurt the lobby just as badly as the NRA nutjobs do.

Which, had you bothered to read anything that I actually wrote, you would know. You don't seem to care what I actually think or mean, though, as is obvious by your willful disregard for the things that I've said.

[DGuller]

Back to the original subject, I think both sides are to blame.

[11B4V]

News sensationalism. It's going to get worse on this subjuct.