Outrage on the Web over NY Post photo capturing subway death

[alfred russel]

24 hours a day?

Yes.
Obviously this creates unique issues for maintenance and upgrades that most other systems don't face.

If Tokyo and Seoul can get by with shutting it down at night, I'd think that NYC could do so far at least a few hours (1:30-4:30 maybe) in order to do some regularly scheduled maintenance.

Tim, so as a result of some people being murdered by being shoved in front of trains, you are proposing NYC replacing all of its trains and shutting down the subway for several hours each night?

[Darth Wagtaros]

Yeah I've never seen that policy.

Ditto.

[garbon]

Yeah I've never seen that policy.

Ditto.

I've seen it at Penn Station in New York and and the downtown train station in SF.  In the case of the latter, on NJ Transit, you don't even know what platform to go to until once the train is parked in the station.

[garbon]

24 hours a day?

Yes.
Obviously this creates unique issues for maintenance and upgrades that most other systems don't face.

If Tokyo and Seoul can get by with shutting it down at night, I'd think that NYC could do so far at least a few hours (1:30-4:30 maybe) in order to do some regularly scheduled maintenance.

Tim, so as a result of some people being murdered by being shoved in front of trains, you are proposing NYC replacing all of its trains and shutting down the subway for several hours each night?

Yeah, I wasn't really sure what issues he was trying to solve with his proposals.

[The Minsky Moment]

If Tokyo and Seoul can get by with shutting it down at night, I'd think that NYC could do so far at least a few hours (1:30-4:30 maybe) in order to do some regularly scheduled maintenance.

It's not called the City That Never Sleeps for nuttin'.

[jimmy olsen]

Seoul and Tokyo are still rocking at that time as well.

[garbon]

Seoul and Tokyo are still rocking at that time as well.

so?

[jimmy olsen]

24 hours a day?

Yes.
Obviously this creates unique issues for maintenance and upgrades that most other systems don't face.

If Tokyo and Seoul can get by with shutting it down at night, I'd think that NYC could do so far at least a few hours (1:30-4:30 maybe) in order to do some regularly scheduled maintenance.

Tim, so as a result of some people being murdered by being shoved in front of trains, you are proposing NYC replacing all of its trains and shutting down the subway for several hours each night?

Yeah, I wasn't really sure what issues he was trying to solve with his proposals.

Minsky said there were maintenance issues because of the 24hr run time. I'm saying running it that late is unnecessary.

[Tonitrus]

I imagine that if they need to close a track for necessary maintenance, they simply do so, and post a pubic announcement.

They do that for 24-hour freeways all the time.

[merithyn]

Minsky said there were maintenance issues because of the 24hr run time. I'm saying running it that late is unnecessary.

You know what the riding rates are during those hours? If not, how can you possibly know what's necessary or unnecessary for NYC based on Seoul and Tokyo? Similar =/= same.

[The Minsky Moment]

I'm saying running it that late is unnecessary.

It's necessary to provide service for people who need intra-city transportation during those hours.

[garbon]

I imagine that if they need to close a track for necessary maintenance, they simply do so, and post a pubic announcement.

They do that for 24-hour freeways all the time.

Well no pubic announcement...

What they tried out recently and have seemed to like is being called Fastrack.  Basically they will shutdown several stations on a particular line (in example in link they speak about 1-2-3), in the evening for a series of days.  Posted well in advance so that everyone can plan accordingly / signs outside affected stations (and inside unaffected ones) relating alternate ways of getting around.

The benefit of this approach is that nearly all lines will still be operational at any given time but allows them concentrated chunks of time to do maintenance on a particular line.

http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/fastrack.htm

[Maximus]

Yea I'm surprised that any major city would have their public transit systems shut down for part of the day.

[garbon]

Minsky said there were maintenance issues because of the 24hr run time. I'm saying running it that late is unnecessary.

Minsky only said that in the context of discussing what an undertaking it would be to implement changes that Zanza thinks just like the political will to enact.  Why 24/7 was just one small bit in that sentence.

The NYC subway system has 660 miles of operational track, 468 stations, and runs 24 hours a day, 7 days/week, 365/6 days per year.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Seoul and Tokyo are still rocking at that time as well.

And it fucking sucks when the subway shuts down.