The untold story of America: our education sucks

[jimmy olsen]

It's such an empty discussion, as the true stalwart of the disordered amongst us, who loved lizard-women and planned to migrate to Malaysia to seek his fortune, is forever gone.

He's dead? 

Wait, is he?

I thought he was just banned or left.

[Syt]

Don't think he was banned, I think he just left.

[viper37]

Still, you haven't answered my question:  What facts are true in Missouri that aren't true in California?

Education isn't, or shouldn't be, just about facts.

Ah, so Creationism then?

He didn't say it was about bullshit.

But obviously, when you get in the realm of social sciences, it's often more a matter of opinion than a matter of hard facts.

Is democracy the best of system?  There are arguments in favor, arguments again.  Is a gay man only evil when he votes Democrat?  It's debetable

Stuff like that, outside the realm of hard science is not always about facts.  It's a matter of how you would interpret the facts, not just memorizing what you're told.
When you teach about morals or ethics, it's not really about facts either.

[Eddie Teach]

The languish "no, assuredly it is -you- who is insane!" circlejerk is wearisome. I couldn't even get as far as an octave before I lost interest in the theme.

It's such an empty discussion, as the true stalwart of the disordered amongst us, who loved lizard-women and planned to migrate to Malaysia to seek his fortune, is forever gone. That fine Finn cannot be adequately replaced.

Dude, this forum has enough nuts to make a pie.

[Valmy]

Mmmmmmm....pie.

So glad it is less than a week from Thanksgiving.

[Razgovory]

Still, you haven't answered my question:  What facts are true in Missouri that aren't true in California?

Education isn't, or shouldn't be, just about facts.

Ah, so Creationism then?

He didn't say it was about bullshit.

But obviously, when you get in the realm of social sciences, it's often more a matter of opinion than a matter of hard facts.

Is democracy the best of system?  There are arguments in favor, arguments again.  Is a gay man only evil when he votes Democrat?  It's debetable

Stuff like that, outside the realm of hard science is not always about facts.  It's a matter of how you would interpret the facts, not just memorizing what you're told.
When you teach about morals or ethics, it's not really about facts either.

Ah, so you are fine so long as you are willing to discuss it.  If you decide that it's "bullshit", then there's a problem?  Here's the secret, creationism is one of the driving forces behind efforts to abolish the Department of Education.

[The Brain]

When I was in high school there was an obese woman who tried to teach evolution, and all the students complained. She got a stern talking to from the principal, and that was that.

How did she lose the weight?

[Lettow77]

 I wonder! I don't remember her name, but I remember she terrorized our poor nazi-sympathizing german exchange student, and I as well; For my part, I refused to write "crayfish" in a biology section because it was the foul terminology of yankeedom, and insisted on crawdad. In the spirit of reason and temperance I offered to make it crawfish, but she wouldn't hear of it. And the nazi from saxony she penalized when he wrote his numbers with periods- I think it was something like 1.000 for 1,000.  His name was valentine, and he got particular if you pronounced it the way it was obviously supposed to be pronounced. I recall that, before he left, he agreed to speak favourably about the Confederacy forever afterward in his native country.

Such youthful idealism! I think I got a C in that class