The untold story of America: our education sucks

Started by Valmy, November 14, 2012, 12:03:44 PM

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Queequeg

#30
November 14, 2012, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on November 14, 2012, 01:32:21 PM
When I was in high school there was an obese woman who tried to teach evolution, and all the students complained. She got a stern talking to from the principal, and that was that. :)
Why in God's name did we ever give you traitorous pieces of shit the vote back.
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#31
November 14, 2012, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on November 14, 2012, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on November 14, 2012, 01:32:21 PM
When I was in high school there was an obese woman who tried to teach evolution, and all the students complained. She got a stern talking to from the principal, and that was that. :)
Why in God's name did we ever give you traitorous pieces of shit the vote back.
Is it any worse than giving corrupt thieves like yourself the vote?
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#32
November 14, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Too bad we don't have a sanity test as a prerequisite for voting or Sqquellus and Lettow would both be disenfranchised.  :P
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Habbaku

#33
November 14, 2012, 11:43:09 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 14, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Too bad we don't have a sanity test as a prerequisite for voting or Sqquellus and Lettow would both be disenfranchised.  :P

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Razgovory

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November 15, 2012, 03:45:55 AM Last Edit: November 15, 2012, 04:27:57 AM by Razgovory
Quote from: crazy canuck on November 14, 2012, 07:09:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 14, 2012, 06:46:06 PM
That's not really an answer to my question, and certainly the Department of Education can say that schools should devote time to local history.


If a federal department of education is going to devolve responsibility for local curiculum to local bodies then what is the point of having a federal department of education?

It doesn't have to devolve responsibility in all areas.  By having a federal department of you can have a set of uniform standards and criteria.  All students of Grade x must be able to read or make sure that teachers aren't telling the kids to shove forks in their eyes or something.  It also can monitor resources better and be able to shift resources to where they are needed most.  Finally it can be used to prevent states from going back to segregation.

Still, you haven't answered my question:  What facts are true in Missouri that aren't true in California?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#35
November 15, 2012, 03:46:19 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 14, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Too bad we don't have a sanity test as a prerequisite for voting or Sqquellus and Lettow would both be disenfranchised.  :P

Wouldn't that disqualify you as well?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Lettow77

#36
November 15, 2012, 05:44:49 AM
 The languish "no, assuredly it is -you- who is insane!" circlejerk is wearisome. I couldn't even get as far as an octave before I lost interest in the theme.

It's such an empty discussion, as the true stalwart of the disordered amongst us, who loved lizard-women and planned to migrate to Malaysia to seek his fortune, is forever gone. That fine Finn cannot be adequately replaced.
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

jimmy olsen

#37
November 15, 2012, 06:12:45 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on November 15, 2012, 05:44:49 AM
The languish "no, assuredly it is -you- who is insane!" circlejerk is wearisome. I couldn't even get as far as an octave before I lost interest in the theme.

It's such an empty discussion, as the true stalwart of the disordered amongst us, who loved lizard-women and planned to migrate to Malaysia to seek his fortune, is forever gone. That fine Finn cannot be adequately replaced.
I miss him! :cry:
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Martinus

#38
November 15, 2012, 07:38:11 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on November 14, 2012, 01:32:21 PM
When I was in high school there was an obese woman who tried to teach evolution, and all the students complained. She got a stern talking to from the principal, and that was that. :)

So we now know why you are a cretin who will never amount to anything?

Maladict

#39
November 15, 2012, 08:06:49 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on November 15, 2012, 05:44:49 AM
It's such an empty discussion, as the true stalwart of the disordered amongst us, who loved lizard-women and planned to migrate to Malaysia to seek his fortune, is forever gone.

He's dead?  :huh:

Eddie Teach

#40
November 15, 2012, 11:32:05 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 03:46:19 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 14, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
Too bad we don't have a sanity test as a prerequisite for voting or Sqquellus and Lettow would both be disenfranchised.  :P

Wouldn't that disqualify you as well?

Doubtful, but a small price to pay if so. I already don't vote.  :P
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Maximus

#41
November 15, 2012, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 03:45:55 AM
Still, you haven't answered my question:  What facts are true in Missouri that aren't true in California?
Education isn't, or shouldn't be, just about facts.

Razgovory

#42
November 15, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
Quote from: Maximus on November 15, 2012, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 03:45:55 AM
Still, you haven't answered my question:  What facts are true in Missouri that aren't true in California?
Education isn't, or shouldn't be, just about facts.

Ah, so Creationism then?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Scipio

#43
November 15, 2012, 12:59:07 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 14, 2012, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 14, 2012, 03:00:38 PM
Hey! Mississippi got a C!


Another oddity is whenever US education is discussed South Carolina is always way at the top.  Who knew?

The proof is that many people who grow up in South Carolina get the fuck out as quickly as possible.
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dps

#44
November 15, 2012, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
Quote from: Maximus on November 15, 2012, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 03:45:55 AM
Still, you haven't answered my question:  What facts are true in Missouri that aren't true in California?
Education isn't, or shouldn't be, just about facts.

Ah, so Creationism then?

No, making schooling just about a rote memorization of facts is a 19th century view of education.
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