Israel fires warning shots into Syrian territory

[Razgovory]

I thought hundreds of thousands of Hungarians across the border would mean you do have a national interest.

I think they were, which meant Hungary not intervening, otherwise how do you think Milosevic would have reacted ?

Maybe a bit of light ethnic cleansing in Vojvodina before lunch, followed by wholesale expulsions across the border by supper ?

Hard to expel the populace when that area has been overtaken by an armored division.

[Tamas]

I thought hundreds of thousands of Hungarians across the border would mean you do have a national interest.

I think they were, which meant Hungary not intervening, otherwise how do you think Milosevic would have reacted ?

Maybe a bit of light ethnic cleansing in Vojvodina before lunch, followed by wholesale expulsions across the border by supper ?

An army made to appear as an actual army so the Soviets are happy, attacking an army made to hold together Yugoslavia, defending its home turf? Thanks, but no thanks.

Hard to expel the populace when that area has been overtaken by an armored division.

[Razgovory]

It's not like the Serbs were great fighters, they were beaten by  the military superpowers of Slovenia and Croatia.

[mongers]

I thought hundreds of thousands of Hungarians across the border would mean you do have a national interest.

I think they were, which meant Hungary not intervening, otherwise how do you think Milosevic would have reacted ?

Maybe a bit of light ethnic cleansing in Vojvodina before lunch, followed by wholesale expulsions across the border by supper ?

Hard to expel the populace when that area has been overtaken by an armored division.

Am having a hard time seeing the post-communist remnants of the Hungarian army invading and defeating a significant part of the ex-Yugoslav army.

If you want to place blame for the failure to stop enthnic war in the Former-Yugoslavian republics might I suggest you look at, oh I don't know, maybe Germany, France, Italy, the UK and the EU rather than Hungary on its own.   

[CountDeMoney]

I hold your entire continent responsible for its moral cowardice.

[Neil]

Could the Europeans 'great powers' (by which I assume we mean Germany, the UK and France) have ended the war on a whim?  Mitterrand blamed everybody else for aggravating the problem, and so was somewhat intractable.  Major was lost in space with a policy that amounted to 'why can't we all just get along' and focusing on domestic policy so that he could try and hold off a revitalized Labour opposition.  As for Germany, their moral cowardice would preclude taking any action or leading anything.

[mongers]

Could the Europeans 'great powers' (by which I assume we mean Germany, the UK and France) have ended the war on a whim?  Mitterrand blamed everybody else for aggravating the problem, and so was somewhat intractable.  Major was lost in space with a policy that amounted to 'why can't we all just get along' and focusing on domestic policy so that he could try and hold off a revitalized Labour opposition.  As for Germany, their moral cowardice would preclude taking any action or leading anything.

Well there's something in that, though I'm of the opinion that this was the opportunity for the EU as a whole to act, which it singularly failed to do.  So I can also see where cdm is coming from.

[Razgovory]

I thought hundreds of thousands of Hungarians across the border would mean you do have a national interest.

I think they were, which meant Hungary not intervening, otherwise how do you think Milosevic would have reacted ?

Maybe a bit of light ethnic cleansing in Vojvodina before lunch, followed by wholesale expulsions across the border by supper ?

Hard to expel the populace when that area has been overtaken by an armored division.

Am having a hard time seeing the post-communist remnants of the Hungarian army invading and defeating a significant part of the ex-Yugoslav army.

If you want to place blame for the failure to stop enthnic war in the Former-Yugoslavian republics might I suggest you look at, oh I don't know, maybe Germany, France, Italy, the UK and the EU rather than Hungary on its own.

Oh I blame them all.

[celedhring]

Which makes the EU getting the Nobel Peace Prize even more ridiculous.

[Neil]

Could the Europeans 'great powers' (by which I assume we mean Germany, the UK and France) have ended the war on a whim?  Mitterrand blamed everybody else for aggravating the problem, and so was somewhat intractable.  Major was lost in space with a policy that amounted to 'why can't we all just get along' and focusing on domestic policy so that he could try and hold off a revitalized Labour opposition.  As for Germany, their moral cowardice would preclude taking any action or leading anything.

Well there's something in that, though I'm of the opinion that this was the opportunity for the EU as a whole to act, which it singularly failed to do.  So I can also see where cdm is coming from.

Given that the EU can't do anything without those three agreeing to it, I don't think that was realistic.  Major wasn't entirely convinced that the EU was a legitimate venue to organize the use of force when compared to the UN, and even if Kohl wanted to he could never have managed to deploy German troops in Yugoslavia.