History in Germany (and Italy)

[Pedrito]

Well, italian Unity is seen as the culmination of a 400-year long process. Everything beyond that point is a long, precipitous fall towards chaos.

History of the italian peninsula up to 1861 is in fact the history of how France, or Spain, or whichever empire tried to annex the region, hereby including the Papal States.

Speaking of the area I live, I don't remember a specific focus on the Serenissima during school years; Venice is simply considered one of the many different powers interested in exerting domination over part of the Po plain and the Adriatic coast. I had to study the history of Venice by myself.
The Gentile reform of school and university, dated 1922-23, until some years ago was still the basis of a great part of the school programs: consider I was in primary and middle school between 1977 and 1985, I studied a very centralized, Roma-centric history.

L.

[Malicious Intent]

My middle school curriculum:

Egypt
Greece
Rome
Charlemagne
Holy Roman Empire (Otto the Great, Barbarossa etc.)
Crusades
Hansa
Reformation
Age of Discoveries
Thirty Years War
Founding of Prussia
French Revolution/Napoleon
Prussian Reforms (Hardenberg/Stein)
1848
Industrial Revolution
Founding of Germany
Bismarck's politics and reforms
Colonies/Imperialism
WW1
Weimar
Third Reich
Cold War (division of Germany, Ostpolitik etc.)

Yep, pretty much the same here. We pretty much skipped WW1 though. Third Reich was expanded on at the cost of all history of the Cold War era.

I took history as one of my main courses (LK2) for the Abitur, 12th and 13th grade. Those two years were pretty much a more in depth revisiting of the late 18th century up to the fall of the Third Reich. More modern history was skipped once again to expand on 1933-1945. 

[Malicious Intent]

Why is it, btw, that the two active Germans on Languish are both from Holstein (and no longer live there)?

And even if we include Syko, he's from Lower Saxony (and the weird guy Isebrand was obviously a big Dithmarschen fan ).

And here's another one from Lower Saxony. Everything south of Hannover is pretty much Bavaria, anyway.  I have mostly limited myself to lurking in the last few years though.

[Neil]

The area of Germany that was ruled by Sweden is still the poorest and most backward area of the country.

Inferior cultures produce inferior colonies.

[Josquius]

Why is it, btw, that the two active Germans on Languish are both from Holstein (and no longer live there)?

And even if we include Syko, he's from Lower Saxony (and the weird guy Isebrand was obviously a big Dithmarschen fan ).

We're a forum that grew out of interst in a scandinavian game and was thus full of scandinavians.

[garbon]

it's oddly disconcerting how germans/germanics go to shit once roman blood enters their cultures. Spain, Portugal, France, Italy...
:p

If by going to shit you mean become the greatest civilization evah on Continental Europe then it is a little strange.

I'm glad you recognize the continental qualified is necessary.

[Syt]

Yep, pretty much the same here. We pretty much skipped WW1 though. Third Reich was expanded on at the cost of all history of the Cold War era.

Oh, we covered the Cold War alright. I finished middle school in 1992 and we covered the reunification in history class.

[Syt]

And here's another one from Lower Saxony. Everything south of Hannover is pretty much Bavaria, anyway.  I have mostly limited myself to lurking in the last few years though.

Our saying at home was: "South of the Elbe is Northern Italy, and East of Lübeck is Asia."

[syk]

And here's another one from Lower Saxony. Everything south of Hannover is pretty much Bavaria, anyway.  I have mostly limited myself to lurking in the last few years though.

Our saying at home was: "South of the Elbe is Northern Italy, and East of Lübeck is Asia."

Pretty much the same here, "Bavaria starts south of Göttingen, East of the Elbe is Asia".

As for the curriculum, it was mostly the same for me, except it feels like we were taught about the 3rd Reich every 2nd year. And we never made past 1945 in the regular lessons. History LK had the Russian Revolution.

[The Brain]

It's cute when Germans think they're northern or non-decadent.

[Zanza]

It's cute when Germans think they're northern or non-decadent.

Comes with being the north-most part of civilization. Not that you would understand that.

[Syt]

It's cute when Germans think they're northern or non-decadent.

Not as bad as domesticated city-dwelling Swedes who think they've still got Vikingishness in them. It's like modern Greeks claiming they're direct descendants of ancient Greece.

[The Brain]

I got one word for you: Auschwitz. Crawl back and hide in your holes.

[Syt]

I got one word for you: Auschwitz. Crawl back and hide in your holes.

I have another word for you: ball bearings.

Also, how could you bring this up, it's a touchy subject. My grandfather died there! 



He fell off a guard tower while drunk.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

it's oddly disconcerting how germans/germanics go to shit once roman blood enters their cultures. Spain, Portugal, France, Italy...
:p

If by going to shit you mean become the greatest civilization evah on Continental Europe then it is a little strange.

france is not a civilization, it's an army.
and Italy.... oh italy.