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Started by Queequeg, November 01, 2012, 07:19:33 PM

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Richard Hakluyt

Free markets and free trade both being liberal ideas of course...............or has the misuse of the word by parts of the American right entirely obscured its proper meaning  :hmm: ?

crazy canuck

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 02, 2012, 11:38:44 AM
Free markets and free trade both being liberal ideas of course...............or has the misuse of the word by parts of the American right entirely obscured its proper meaning  :hmm: ?

It appears to have done so for Marti but I think most Americans understand their use of the term liberal is incorrect. 

Phillip V

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Quote from: Sheilbh on November 01, 2012, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 01, 2012, 09:41:21 PM
The Republican Intramural Bloodletting that will happen if Obama wins again and the dems take back the senate will be entertaining. I suspect the blame will fall on those who Teapartiers were attacking all cycle.
Agreed.  My suspicion is that they'll point to 2010 and say the reason they lost was because they weren't conservative enough.
Doubt it. Extremists they primaried in like Akin and Mourdock (casting out incumbent GOP Senator Lugar) are losing what should be easy Senate seats.

The same thing happened when they sent a Tea Partier Sharon Angle against unpopular Harry Reid in 2010 when he initially looked like losing; witch/Tea Partier O'Donnell picked by 2010 GOP primary in Delaware instead of U.S. Rep and former Governor Mike Castle.

CountDeMoney

Michelle Bachmann's in a much tighter fight than she expected.

Oh man, wouldn't it be nice to see that Fruit Loop out.  Doubtful, but one can hope.

Habbaku

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 02, 2012, 01:27:16 PM
Michelle Bachmann's in a much tighter fight than she expected.

Oh man, wouldn't it be nice to see that Fruit Loop out.  Doubtful, but one can hope.

Be nice to see her and Wasserman escort each other out.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Habbaku on November 02, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 02, 2012, 01:27:16 PM
Michelle Bachmann's in a much tighter fight than she expected.

Oh man, wouldn't it be nice to see that Fruit Loop out.  Doubtful, but one can hope.

Be nice to see her and Wasserman escort each other out.

I would accept that trade.  Totally insane versus insane curls with body and bounce?  Sure.

Razgovory

Quote from: Phillip V on November 02, 2012, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 01, 2012, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 01, 2012, 09:41:21 PM
The Republican Intramural Bloodletting that will happen if Obama wins again and the dems take back the senate will be entertaining. I suspect the blame will fall on those who Teapartiers were attacking all cycle.
Agreed.  My suspicion is that they'll point to 2010 and say the reason they lost was because they weren't conservative enough.
Doubt it. Extremists they primaried in like Akin and Mourdock (casting out incumbent GOP Senator Lugar) are losing what should be easy Senate seats.

The same thing happened when they sent a Tea Partier Sharon Angle against unpopular Harry Reid in 2010 when he initially looked like losing; witch/Tea Partier O'Donnell picked by 2010 GOP primary in Delaware instead of U.S. Rep and former Governor Mike Castle.

Akin had that election in the bag before he said something stupid.  He's not losing because he's out of touch with Missouri voters, he's losing because he's an idiot.  Now, if you wish to conflate stupidity with the Republican message I'm okay with that.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on November 02, 2012, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 02, 2012, 11:38:44 AM
Free markets and free trade both being liberal ideas of course...............or has the misuse of the word by parts of the American right entirely obscured its proper meaning  :hmm: ?

It appears to have done so for Marti but I think most Americans understand their use of the term liberal is incorrect.

On this board, yeah.  In the rest of the country, I doubt it.  I get the feeling that most people didn't pay attention in history or civics classes.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Phillip V

Quote from: Razgovory on November 02, 2012, 02:40:11 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on November 02, 2012, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 01, 2012, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: Viking on November 01, 2012, 09:41:21 PM
The Republican Intramural Bloodletting that will happen if Obama wins again and the dems take back the senate will be entertaining. I suspect the blame will fall on those who Teapartiers were attacking all cycle.
Agreed.  My suspicion is that they'll point to 2010 and say the reason they lost was because they weren't conservative enough.
Doubt it. Extremists they primaried in like Akin and Mourdock (casting out incumbent GOP Senator Lugar) are losing what should be easy Senate seats.

The same thing happened when they sent a Tea Partier Sharon Angle against unpopular Harry Reid in 2010 when he initially looked like losing; witch/Tea Partier O'Donnell picked by 2010 GOP primary in Delaware instead of U.S. Rep and former Governor Mike Castle.

Akin had that election in the bag before he said something stupid.  He's not losing because he's out of touch with Missouri voters, he's losing because he's an idiot.  Now, if you wish to conflate stupidity with the Republican message I'm okay with that.
Akin only won the Republican primary with 36% of the vote. Democrats indirectly supported his candidacy in the primary since they considered him the most extreme/weakest candidate. They were right.

Razgovory

Uh, no.  Akin was favored to win before he made a fool of himself.  He got only 36% of primary vote because there was over a half dozen candidates.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Phillip V

Quote from: Razgovory on November 02, 2012, 03:04:13 PM
Uh, no.  Akin was favored to win before he made a fool of himself.  He got only 36% of primary vote because there was over a half dozen candidates.
That's the point. A fool was selected in the primary. His extreme views are not a surprise.

Count

Yeah my understanding is that McClaskill (who is not terribly likable) tried to help Akin win the primary.
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Scipio

Quote from: Habbaku on November 02, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 02, 2012, 01:27:16 PM
Michelle Bachmann's in a much tighter fight than she expected.

Oh man, wouldn't it be nice to see that Fruit Loop out.  Doubtful, but one can hope.

Be nice to see her and Wasserman escort each other out.
OMG, I would pay good money to see this shit happen.  Both of those loony women (I don't call them bitches because I have a female dog that I respect as a pet) deserve to spend eternity straitjacketed together, face to face.
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