More GOP abortion funtime: Save the life of the mother? Science calls Bullshit

[CountDeMoney]

I love these guys.  Shame they're so dangerous.

Mourdock: Pregnancy from rape can be 'something that God intended to happen'

Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock said Tuesday that pregnancy that results from rape can be "something that God intended to happen."

"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize life is that gift from God," Mourdock said at a debate. "And I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."

(Video of the remark has been removed from YouTube but is available here from CSPAN.)

Mourdock appeared to be choking up as he made the comments. He also noted that, while he doesn't believe in abortion in the case of rape and incest, he does believe it should be used to save the life of the mother.

Democrats immediately pounced on the comment, suggesting that Mourdock was saying God intended for rapes to occur.

"The God I believe in and the God I know most Hoosiers believe in, does not intend for rape to happen — ever," Mourdock's opponent, Rep. Joe Donnelly (D), said in a statement. "What Mr. Mourdock said is shocking, and it is stunning that he would be so disrespectful to survivors of rape."

Mourdock's campaign clarified after the debate that Mourdock was not saying that God intends for rapes to occur.

"God creates life, and that was my point," Mourdock said in the statement. "God does not want rape, and by no means was I suggesting that he does. Rape is a horrible thing, and for anyone to twist my words otherwise is absurd and sick."

Democrats also noted that Mitt Romney cut an ad for Mourdock this week, attempting to tie the GOP presidential candidate to Mourdock's comment. Romney's campaign quickly distanced itself from the remark.

"Gov. Romney disagrees with Richard Mourdock's comments, and they do not reflect his views," Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said.

While about half of Americans oppose abortion, many who do also support exceptions in the case of rape and incest.

Mourdock, who beat longtime Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) in a primary earlier this year, is locked in a tight race with Donnelly despite Indiana's Republican lean.

For the national GOP, it's a potential case of deja vu. The party's chances in the Missouri Senate race plummeted when newly minted nominee Rep. Todd Akin remarked in August that "legitimate rape" rarely causes pregnancy.

Akin has since apologized for the comment but is struggling both in the polls and in fundraising. GOP leaders tried unsuccessfully to push him out of the race so they could get a different candidate.

[Eddie Teach]

"The God I believe in and the God I know most Hoosiers believe in, does not intend for rape to happen — ever," Mourdock's opponent, Rep. Joe Donnelly (D), said in a statement.

I think it's cool that you're giving idiot Democrats equal exposure here CD.   

[Razgovory]

Great, now we are going to have Viking come in here and start frothing.

[CountDeMoney]

But wait: there's more!

lol, "the rape thing".

Republican candidate John Koster calls aborting rapist's child "more violence on woman's body"
The Tea Party politician, currently running for a congressional seat in Washington state, says he believes abortion is wrong even in cases of 'the rape thing'

Tea Party politician John Koster, the Republican nominee for a hotly contested congressional seat in Washington state, says he opposes abortions, even in cases of "the rape thing," because it is tantamount to inflicting "more violence onto a woman's body."

The Snohomish County councilman made the comments during a weekend fundraising appearance in the Puget Sound city of Everett, north of Seattle, that was captured in a recording released on Wednesday by the liberal activist group Fuse Washington.

Long known as an opponent of abortion, even in cases of rape or incest, Koster was asked if there were any circumstances under which he would approve of terminating a pregnancy.

"When a mother's life is in danger ... I'm not going to make that decision," he replied, before going on to talk about incest and rape.

"Incest is so rare, I mean, it's so rare. But the rape thing, you know, I know a woman who was raped and kept her child, gave it up for adoption. She doesn't regret it. In fact, she is a big pro-life proponent," he said in the recording.

He continued by asking a rhetorical question: "But on the rape thing, it's like, how does putting more violence onto a woman's body and taking the life of an innocent child that's a consequence of this crime, how does that make it better?"

The remarks drew sharp criticism from the campaign of his Democratic foe, former Microsoft executive and state revenue director Suzan DelBene - a spokesman said it showed Koster to be "out of touch" - and from abortion-rights supporters.

"There are far too many extreme politicians out there that are trying to be involved in a woman's personal medical decisions about her pregnancy," Sara Kiesler of Planned Parenthood Votes Northwest told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

The flap marked the latest instance of a Republican congressional candidate stirring controversy with comments about abortion and rape.

Richard Mourdock, the Republican nominee for a U.S. Senate seat in Indiana, said during a debate last Tuesday that pregnancy from rape was "something that God intended to happen." And Missouri U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin in August caused an uproar by saying women have natural defenses against pregnancy from "legitimate rape."

In a statement posted on its website on Wednesday, Koster's campaign accused DelBene supporters of engaging in "dirty tricks" by circulating the recording of his remarks, and suggested his words were taken out of context.

"The recording was done secretly, then edited to suit DelBene's agenda," campaign manager Larry Stickney said. "The insinuation that John Koster is in some way 'callous or 'cavalier' when it comes to the subject of rape is another example of the vicious and desperate tactics ... employed to slander the good name of John Koster."

During his term as a state lawmaker, Koster sponsored tough "two strikes, you're out" legislation to lock up violent sex offenders permanently, his website said.

The race between Koster and DelBene for Washington state's newly drawn first congressional district seat, vacated by Democrat Jay Inslee when he resigned to run for governor, is considered a tossup.

Koster, a former dairy farmer with close affiliations with and support from the Tea Party movement, has lost two previous bids for the U.S. House of Representatives.

[garbon]

Why have men always been so interested in controlling women's bodies? What would happen if they did as they felt?

[merithyn]

Why have men always been so interested in controlling women's bodies? What would happen if they did as they felt?

Good questions. derspiess? Care to answer?

[Eddie Teach]

Why have men always been so interested in controlling women's bodies? What would happen if they did as they felt?

Evolution. They'd be conquered by a tribe that wasn't pussy-whipped.


Not sure what this has to do with abortion though.

[garbon]

He called abortion after tape more violence to a woman's body.

[Eddie Teach]

Yeah, people say some pretty inane things sometimes when they're trying to turn the opposition's argument around. I'm sure his stance has little to do with the effects of the abortion on the mother's own body though.

[garbon]

Ah gotcha we should just ignore what people say.

[merithyn]

Ah gotcha we should just ignore what people say.

That'd be a lot easier if they weren't trying to put what they say into Legislation.

[garbon]

Well according to P, they actually consider the woman's body irrelevant. Controlling it is just incidental.

[Valmy]

Why have men always been so interested in controlling women's bodies? What would happen if they did as they felt?

I don't know about men specifically but society has always been very interested in controlling women's bodies.  The reason strikes me as obvious.

[Ed Anger]

Why have men always been so interested in controlling women's bodies? What would happen if they did as they felt?

I don't know about men specifically but society has always been very interested in controlling women's bodies.  The reason strikes me as obvious.

They'll spend all the men's money, that's why.

[merithyn]

I don't know about men specifically but society has always been very interested in controlling women's bodies.  The reason strikes me as obvious.

Clarify, por favor?