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QuoteAfghan troops get a lesson in American cultural ignorance
By Kevin Sieff and Richard Leiby, Updated: Friday, September 28

KABUL — A new Afghan army-issued guide explains to soldiers here that when their Western counterparts do something deeply insulting, it's likely a product of cultural ignorance and not worthy of revenge.

Eleven years into the war in Afghanistan, NATO troops and Afghan soldiers are still beset by a dangerous lack of cultural understanding, officials say, contributing to a string of insider attacks that have threatened to undermine the military partnership. Fifty-one coalition troops have been killed this year by their Afghan counterparts.

To address a laundry list of cross-cultural pitfalls — and to avoid their potentially fatal consequences — the Afghan Ministry of Defense this month introduced a pamphlet called "Cultural Understanding — A Guide to Understanding Coalition Cultures."

The 18-page training guide, written in Dari, will soon be distributed to Afghan military leaders across the country. The booklet will be taught in three one-hour sessions to all soldiers as well as new recruits.

It is intended to "strengthen our understanding of our [NATO] counterpart," according to an English translation of the pamphlet that was provided to The Washington Post. But in doing so, it also reveals seemingly minor — and rarely acknowledged — cultural faux pas that have created palpable tension between the two forces.

"Please do not get offended if you see a NATO member blowing his/her nose in front of you," the guide instructs.

"When Coalition members get excited, they may show their excitement by patting one another on the back or the behind," it explains. "They may even do this to you if they are proud of the job you've done. Once again, they don't mean to offend you."

And another tip: "When someone feels comfortable in your presence, they may even put their feet on their own desk while speaking with you. They are by no means trying to offend you. They simply don't know or have forgotten the Afghan custom." Pointing the soles of one's shoes at someone is considered a grievous insult in Afghanistan.

The guide also warns Afghan soldiers that Western troops might wink at them or inquire about their female relatives or expose their private parts while showering — all inappropriate actions by Afghan standards.

As NATO winds down its mission here, the "Cultural Understanding" guide marks the Afghan army's most significant effort to identify long-standing points of contention and confusion between the two forces.

Despite those points, the coalition is described glowingly, often in florid language.

The United States is "a little like a lovely carpet. Different colored strands combine to make a beautiful whole."

NATO's coalition is described as a "work of art."

The task of laying out a set of commonly misinterpreted behaviors fell to Brig. Gen. Mohammad Amin Nasib, the bearish, affable head of religious and ideological affairs at the Ministry of Defense, and his senior military adviser from the NATO side, Michael W. Gore, a mild-mannered Navy commander and chaplain.

"Some would argue that we're too late, but any time is the right time to promote understanding of each other's culture," Gore said. "The Golden Rule goes a long way in any culture in helping to foster tolerance and understanding."

Nasib wasn't quite as buoyant. "Unfortunately, it's too late," he said. "It should have been done early."

Admiral Yi

I don't think Dari speakers are shooting up our guys, for waving their dicks around in the shower or for any other reason.

Viking

still no pashto version I assume then... but then again, that might only matter if they could read...
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

CountDeMoney

It would have to be a cartoon booklet for most of them.  Yi's dick would have a happy face on it, with a red line through it for "do not shoot".

Eddie Teach

I can understand the showering thing, though I'd rather take them by myself than with a bunch of dudes in shorts.
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mongers

Quote from: Viking on September 28, 2012, 01:52:00 PM
still no pashto version I assume then... but then again, that might only matter if they could read...

Come on it's important to communicate with the Tajiks and Uzbecks who make up the majority of the ANA.   :hmm:
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The Brain

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