The China Thread

[HVC]

as long as we buy their stuff I don't think they care how popular they are

Well that is the thing. There are plenty of other places to make that shit, places that will not assault our citizens rights and freedoms and try to control our internal affairs.

but for the same price? I guess we can move to an African country to do it. we've gone through most of the Asian ones.

[Valmy]

as long as we buy their stuff I don't think they care how popular they are

Well that is the thing. There are plenty of other places to make that shit, places that will not assault our citizens rights and freedoms and try to control our internal affairs.

but for the same price? I guess we can move to an African country to do it. we've gone through most of the Asian ones.

Actually the other Asian countries have been happy to get manufacturing back after the tariffs went into effect.

But there is always India and Bangladesh and places like that. Lots of peasants left.

[Eddie Teach]

Y'all are missing the point. This stuff doesn't happen because China makes shit, but because they buy it.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Meanwhile in Chinese soft power:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/05/hong-kong-protest-themed-cake-disqualified-from-uk-baking-contest

Jesus.

Opening up to China in the 90's was a mistake.

only Nixon could go to China.
He should have stayed home instead

[Monoriu]

I read a story about Chinese manufacturing.  I think one of the reasons Chinese manufacturing is essential to the global supply chain is not only because of things like prices, but also because China is pretty much the only place in the world where a company boss has the ability to ring the bell in the middle of the night, wake up the 100,000 factory workers who literally live inside the gigantic factory compound in the middle of the night, and demand that they make sufficient quantities of a, say, specific type of nails that is needed to make a laptop.  And won't suffer any adverse consequences.  The same kind of nails would take a few months to make in the US, whereas it would be a matter of hours in Mainland China. 

[Admiral Yi]

The organizers of the baking show gave a reason for disqualifying unrelated to political speech.  It's also hard to see what they would have to fear from losing the Chinese market.  I don't think it fits the general pattern.

[crazy canuck]

Really, why would a baking show feel the need to disqualify innocuous unrelated political speech other then worrying about offending Chinese sensibilities?

[Valmy]

The organizers of the baking show gave a reason for disqualifying unrelated to political speech.  It's also hard to see what they would have to fear from losing the Chinese market.  I don't think it fits the general pattern.

Damn it Sheilbh!

[Sheilbh]

What can I say? At best I read headlines.

But the Global Times is reporting that Chinese netizens are unhappy at the "pro-violence" cakes:
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1169037.shtml

[Sheilbh]

Second set of extraordinary leaks on Xinjiang.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/24/china-cables-leak-no-escapes-reality-china-uighur-prison-camp

[Monoriu]

Second set of extraordinary leaks on Xinjiang.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/24/china-cables-leak-no-escapes-reality-china-uighur-prison-camp

I wonder why there are leaks and who is responsible for the leaks. 

[mongers]

Second set of extraordinary leaks on Xinjiang.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/24/china-cables-leak-no-escapes-reality-china-uighur-prison-camp

I wonder why there are leaks and who is responsible for the leaks.

Plumbers.


Or alternatively, decent people can't stand what they're witnessing; kind of like how the holocaust wasn't a keep a secret for too long.

[Monoriu]

Second set of extraordinary leaks on Xinjiang.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/24/china-cables-leak-no-escapes-reality-china-uighur-prison-camp

I wonder why there are leaks and who is responsible for the leaks.

Plumbers.


Or alternatively, decent people can't stand what they're witnessing; kind of like how the holocaust wasn't a keep a secret for too long.

Or some kind of power struggle within the top ranks  This leak weakens Xi. 

[Eddie Teach]

Plumbers fix leaks, any old fool can create one.

[Valmy]

Or some kind of power struggle within the top ranks  This leak weakens Xi. 

Jiang's faction 

It is not exactly shocking though, it reveals just the extent of the attempt to destroy the Uighurs. But that much is clear to anybody with eyes to see.