Languishing like a Virgin Queen

[Solmyr]

Btw, regarding Scotland, the existence of Scottish Lords Rebel means it's really, really bothersome to hold on to. Sure, you can if you put resources into it, but it's still a roll of the dice and the entire country swaps ownership via that card, regardless of anything. When I played it in turn 2 it was pretty much a random "see what happens" play, and prior to that I had given it to England for basically free.

[Viking]

Btw, regarding Scotland, the existence of Scottish Lords Rebel means it's really, really bothersome to hold on to. Sure, you can if you put resources into it, but it's still a roll of the dice and the entire country swaps ownership via that card, regardless of anything. When I played it in turn 2 it was pretty much a random "see what happens" play, and prior to that I had given it to England for basically free.

But think about the consequences of that card. I now had a safe Key. I started at +3 over everybody else and with Calais in my hands that meant I was willing to deal with you up to the point where I had all the netherlands. You made win-win deal offers to me and max refused to talk. So rather than plotting to provoke the catholic league or patronizing breughel I was trading body blows with max.

[Solmyr]

Yeah I know, it was just a general observation regarding that card. It makes holding Scotland an iffy proposition.

[sbr]

Drake will return home with his loot.

[Viking]

Drake will return home with his loot.

You do realize that Solmyr just won.

[Solmyr]

[sbr]

Drake will return home with his loot.

You do realize that Solmyr just won.

I do now that I have read the entire thread.   

[Maximus]

I am sad. The nearest fortified space(and nearest port) is Dublin. Things would have just gotten interesting.

[JacobL]

Time for nappie wars aar. 

[Viking]

I am sad. The nearest fortified space(and nearest port) is Dublin. Things would have just gotten interesting.

Groningen and Corunna are just as close.

[Maximus]

Not so. Groningen is not a port, and the North Sea is adjacent to the Irish Sea and not the Bay of Biscay

[Solmyr]

So, a new game? There has to be a greater likelihood that this game can be played for longer than 3 turns.

[Maximus]

Indeed this was a first for many of us. My preferences: England or Protestants

[sbr]

I'll go again

[Viking]

Not so. Groningen is not a port, and the North Sea is adjacent to the Irish Sea and not the Bay of Biscay

I was thinking both fleets and army. The army can either go to groningen or dublin or capital, the fleet can go to dublin or corunna.

As for a new game, I have no preferences.