Marseille mayor calls for army to be deployed to tackle gang warfare

Started by Syt, September 01, 2012, 12:37:34 PM

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Syt

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9510094/Marseille-mayor-calls-for-army-to-be-deployed-to-tackle-gang-warfare.html

QuoteFrançois Hollande on Thursday faced calls from the Socialist mayor of a tough Marseille neighbourhood to send in the army to tackle the city's gang warfare.

The appeal highlighted the escalating drug violence in the Mediterranean port city that claimed its 14th victim in eight months earlier this week.

Kalashnikov-wielding gangsters shot dead Walid Marzouki, 25, a suspected trafficker, at close range on Wednesday night as he drove his black Twingo in the streets of France's second biggest city.

It was the second gangland killing this month and the latest in a wave of deaths to hit Marseille Nord, one of the city's toughest drug-infested suburbs, sparking Samia Ghali, the Socialist mayor of two local districts, to call for military intervention.

"Faced with the weapons of war being used by these networks, only the army can intervene," Miss Ghali, also a senator, told local newspaper La Provence.

She said that the army should set up roadblocks around neighbourhoods to vet inhabitants for weapons and drugs "like in times of war".

"It no longer makes any difference to send in a police car to stop the dealers. When 10 of them are arrested, 10 others take up the torch. It's like fighting an anthill."

Politicians from Left and Right widely rejected Miss Ghali's call.

Speaking from Madrid, President Hollande said: "The army has no place in controlling the districts of the French Republic", pointing out that gendarmes, who have a military status, are already present in many areas.

Manuel Valls, the interior minister, said: "It is out of the question for the army to respond to these tragedies and crimes. There is no internal enemy."

But he promised a "comprehensive, in-depth and particularly strong" response to the shootings.

On Thursday, Marseille's Right-wing mayor, Jean-Claude Gaudin, slammed Miss Ghali's remarks as "irresponsible", saying the city needed "police reinforcements, not a call to civil war".

Police were also sceptical. David-Olivier Reverdy of the Alliance union said: "France is not at war. Each to their own profession. Rather give us the means to fight against underground (drug) trafficking."

Marseille is renowned as a vibrant Meditteranean melting pot, with a beautiful old port. It will be the European capital of culture in 2013. But the city's uphill battle against gangland killings and rising petty crime has been the bane of Left and Right-wing leaders.

Former president Nicolas Sarkozy changed the city's police chief three times in 18 months to tackle a series of violent murders, heists and robberies, including seven "home-jackings" of Olympique Marseille footballers in a year.

The second chief to go, Gilles Leclair was fired after declaring: "I cannot resolve all on my own the difficulties of a poor city which has for the past 50 years suffered from immigration and a tradition of gangsters."

The Socialists cited Marseille as proof that Mr Sarkozy's crime-fighting record was a "fiasco", found itself accused by the Right yesterday of "laxism".

In response, Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said he would chair crisis talks with senior ministers next Thursday on tackling Marseille's problems. The district where the killing took place will be one of 15 "priority zones" Mr Valls has pledged to set up around France to root out crime and violence.

Mr Gaudin said creating such a zone would be insufficient to control a situation that was "worsening every day".

There have been more killings in the past eight months than for the whole of 2011, according to Marseille public prosecutor Jacques Dallest. He warned last year that parts of parts of Marseille were like "the favelas of Rio".

If only France had the right to bear arms, so that the drug trafickers could defend themselves. :(

:P
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Viking

As one of those general rules of history like "don't march on moscow" and "never fight a land war in asia" "don't let the french army do crowd control" has got to be one of the basics





First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

Napoleon's whiff of grapeshot worked out a lot better for him than his march on Moscow.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Viking

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 01, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Napoleon's whiff of grapeshot worked out a lot better for him than his march on Moscow.

didn't work out well for the guys that let him do the crowd control :contract:
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Viking on September 01, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
As one of those general rules of history like "don't march on moscow" and "never fight a land war in asia" "don't let the french army do crowd control" has got to be one of the basics

Paris Commune?  :hmm:

Viking

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 01, 2012, 02:41:56 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 01, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
As one of those general rules of history like "don't march on moscow" and "never fight a land war in asia" "don't let the french army do crowd control" has got to be one of the basics

Paris Commune?  :hmm:

Assaulting a defended city /= crowd control
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Solmyr

They should invite the German army instead. That always gets results.

Viking

Quote from: Solmyr on September 01, 2012, 05:32:08 PM
They should invite the German army instead. That always gets results.

The Bundeswehr is neither a Reichsheer or a Wehrmacht.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Darth Wagtaros

PDH!

Viking

First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Darth Wagtaros

Bah. Are their mountains i Marseilles? No. Is there a major power willing to smuggle in weapons and trained personnel? Just Algeria. 
PDH!

dps

If they're going to bother deploying the Army, they should at least have them shoot the gangsters instead of tackling them.

Syt

I also like how that mayor goes "OMG 14 dead in 8 months, deploy teh army!"

While in many U.S. cities those numbers would be heralded as a miraculous improvement. :D

And as U.S. cities in general are a far cry from being lawless zones of anarchy, I think she's a bit too nervous for her job.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Lettow77

It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'