Federal appeals court strikes down FDA tobacco warning label law

Started by jimmy olsen, August 27, 2012, 10:04:58 PM

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Eddie Teach

Question- Actors from b&w movies in the 40s. Were they cool because they smoked :smoke: or were they cool because they wore fedoras?  :outback: (not perfect but closest we got)
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

garbon

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 30, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 30, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 30, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Perhaps that is part of the problem.  They dont get much detailed information about a lot of things they are putting into their bodies - to tie back to Josephus' comment.

:huh:

So you're arguing that there is a significant group of individuals who have missed out on every warning out there about the danger of cigarettes but would pay attention if it was clearly marked on the package?

Not what I am saying at all.  I am saying the more ways we can inform/convince people not to smoke the better. 

I think there's a limit on the usefulness once you've hit a certain critical mass of ways. and don't really see why cigarettes should be singled out among the vast array of harmful consumer products.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

dps

Quote from: garbon on August 30, 2012, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 30, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 30, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 30, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Perhaps that is part of the problem.  They dont get much detailed information about a lot of things they are putting into their bodies - to tie back to Josephus' comment.

:huh:

So you're arguing that there is a significant group of individuals who have missed out on every warning out there about the danger of cigarettes but would pay attention if it was clearly marked on the package?

Not what I am saying at all.  I am saying the more ways we can inform/convince people not to smoke the better. 

I think there's a limit on the usefulness once you've hit a certain critical mass of ways. and don't really see why cigarettes should be singled out among the vast array of harmful consumer products.

Frankly, if something's legal, I'm not really sure it's appropriate for the government to attempt to discourage it, or force private companies to attempt to discourage it. 

Of course, if we're discussing teen smoking specifically, it is illegal--but then, unless the law's already been broken, teens aren't going to be getting ahold of cigarette packs with those anti-smoking messages on them in the first place, now are they?

At any rate, it's been common knowledge that smoking is very bad for you at least since the mid-1960's, at least in the US.  Anyone who has started smoking since then has either been willfully ignorant of the health affects, or at least has willfully ignored what they did know.

crazy canuck

Quote from: dps on August 30, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
Frankly, if something's legal, I'm not really sure it's appropriate for the government to attempt to discourage it, or force private companies to attempt to discourage it. 


The alternative then is to make the activity illegal.  That doesnt strike me as the most reasonable of arguments.

dps

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 30, 2012, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: dps on August 30, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
Frankly, if something's legal, I'm not really sure it's appropriate for the government to attempt to discourage it, or force private companies to attempt to discourage it. 


The alternative then is to make the activity illegal.  That doesnt strike me as the most reasonable of arguments.

Actually, whenever the War on Drugs is being discussed, I can't help but think that if tobacco cigarettes are legal, there's nothing that should be illegal.