The GOP Convention MegaMittensThread!

[garbon]

Stronger Presidents have never had to deal with the House class of '10.  I sincerely doubt LBJ himself would've had much success with that crowd of amateur night assclowns.  You can't get anything done in the House without House leadership, and Boehner has proving to be completely incompetent in controlling a caucus that doesn't want to be controlled.

Hopefully a lot of them will get kicked, but I don't think it'll happen.

Whereas we witnessed miracles occurring during the Pelosi-Reid Connection of '08.

[Valmy]

Bill Clinton had many of the same problems.  Of course, we know how that ended up.

With a budget that was sorta balanced?

[CountDeMoney]

Stronger Presidents have never had to deal with the House class of '10.  I sincerely doubt LBJ himself would've had much success with that crowd of amateur night assclowns.  You can't get anything done in the House without House leadership, and Boehner has proving to be completely incompetent in controlling a caucus that doesn't want to be controlled.

Hopefully a lot of them will get kicked, but I don't think it'll happen.

Whereas we witnessed miracles occurring during the Pelosi-Reid Connection of '08.

That, as Oprah would say, is for another show.  Totally different set of problems there.

[Razgovory]

Bill Clinton had many of the same problems.  Of course, we know how that ended up.

With a budget that was sorta balanced?

With an impeachment.  If I recall correctly, the GOP controlled congresses did a lot of obstruction during Clinton Presidency.

[garbon]

Stronger Presidents have never had to deal with the House class of '10.  I sincerely doubt LBJ himself would've had much success with that crowd of amateur night assclowns.  You can't get anything done in the House without House leadership, and Boehner has proving to be completely incompetent in controlling a caucus that doesn't want to be controlled.

Hopefully a lot of them will get kicked, but I don't think it'll happen.

Whereas we witnessed miracles occurring during the Pelosi-Reid Connection of '08.

That, as Oprah would say, is for another show.  Totally different set of problems there.

I don't know. I mean apart from the bailouts (which can be judged depending on one's point of view), we didn't see a lot of great legislation that Obama could at all claim credit for. Seems to suggest that even without the Repubs, he wouldn't be doing so hot.

[MadImmortalMan]

He would have done much better if he hadn't let Nancy drive.

[Valmy]

Bill Clinton had many of the same problems.  Of course, we know how that ended up.

With a budget that was sorta balanced?

With an impeachment.  If I recall correctly, the GOP controlled congresses did a lot of obstruction during Clinton Presidency.

Oh they did that was when I stopped being a Republican partisan because I thought they clearly fell off the sanity wagon in their hatred of Clinton.  But compared to what has followed that was a glorious era, when our biggest problems were OJ Simpson and Figure Skaters.

[garbon]

He would have done much better if he hadn't let Nancy drive.

I'm not sure he had a choice.  I don't think he had enough cachet with his party to do otherwise.

[Valmy]

I think Obama is an incompetent liar.  It is just a tribute to the the political establishment these days that those qualities do not make him stand out that much.

Incompetent liar? I know the absence of evidence isn't evidence of anything.. but what lies has he been caught in?

He said he was going to reverse the abuses of the Bush administration and not only has he not done it he doubled down.  Now those things are pretty much established procedure thanks to Obama.  As far as incompetent he cannot manage Congress even when the Democrats controlled it. 

[CountDeMoney]

He said he was going to reverse the abuses of the Bush administration and not only has he not done it he doubled down.

You make Gitmo and drone Whack-A-Mole sound like a bad thing.

[Razgovory]

Bill Clinton had many of the same problems.  Of course, we know how that ended up.

With a budget that was sorta balanced?

With an impeachment.  If I recall correctly, the GOP controlled congresses did a lot of obstruction during Clinton Presidency.

Oh they did that was when I stopped being a Republican partisan because I thought they clearly fell off the sanity wagon in their hatred of Clinton.  But compared to what has followed that was a glorious era, when our biggest problems were OJ Simpson and Figure Skaters.

Eh, they never really accepted defeat in 1992.  I recall bigger problems like terrorists attacking the Olympics and Abortion Clinics and Federal buildings.

[DGuller]

That's the biggest problem with a huge number of right-wingers:  they refuse to acknowledge defeat and accept the legitimacy of the Democratic president.  This is a very dangerous trait in a democratic system.

[Razgovory]

I think Obama is an incompetent liar.  It is just a tribute to the the political establishment these days that those qualities do not make him stand out that much.

Incompetent liar? I know the absence of evidence isn't evidence of anything.. but what lies has he been caught in?

He said he was going to reverse the abuses of the Bush administration and not only has he not done it he doubled down.  Now those things are pretty much established procedure thanks to Obama.  As far as incompetent he cannot manage Congress even when the Democrats controlled it.

Wait, lets back up.  Are the original Bush policies still going on?  I was under the impression that Bush policies regarding Gitmo back in 2003 are quite different then they were in 2008.

[dps]

I think Obama is an incompetent liar.  It is just a tribute to the the political establishment these days that those qualities do not make him stand out that much.

Incompetent liar? I know the absence of evidence isn't evidence of anything.. but what lies has he been caught in?

He said he was going to reverse the abuses of the Bush administration and not only has he not done it he doubled down.  Now those things are pretty much established procedure thanks to Obama.  As far as incompetent he cannot manage Congress even when the Democrats controlled it.

Wait, lets back up.  Are the original Bush policies still going on?  I was under the impression that Bush policies regarding Gitmo back in 2003 are quite different then they were in 2008.

I'm fairly sure there were some policy chages between 2003 and 2008, but Senator Obama in 2008 pretty explicitly ran against the policies in place at the time, not those of 5 years earlier.

[Martinus]

That's the biggest problem with a huge number of right-wingers:  they refuse to acknowledge defeat and accept the legitimacy of the Democratic president.  This is a very dangerous trait in a democratic system.

Please tell me you are being sarcastic.