Several People Shot Outside Empire State Building

[grumbler]

Shootings suck.


BTW, in that last article Garbon posted, I like how they included:

Police cordoned off a one-block perimeter around the Empire State Building after the shooting. Around 10 a.m., a lone tourist bus headed down Fifth Avenue, and a guide could be heard over the bus's mic explaining they were nearing the landmark. As police waved the bus to detour down 36th Street, the guide was openly mystified. "I don't know what's going on, folks," he said, as the bus turned. By then the bus's passengers were looking up at the sky at a news helicopter floating overhead. Some stood, clutching their cameras.

Definitely newsworthy.  Such a reaction from a tour bus is unprecedented.  The story, though, left out how the police asked people to step aside when they laid out the cordon, and didn't tell us anything about the width of the police tape, nor where it was procured.  Not a cop who set up the cordon is named, either.

[grumbler]

But we'll just go ahead and continue with the incredibly popular "why-couldn't-they-just-shoot-the-gun-out-of-his-hand" criticism to police-related shootings.

Yeah, why didn't they just shoot the gun out of his hand?  And it was clearly police brutality that they killed they guy when they could have just shot to wound him!

[garbon]

Btw, the one part I find creepy is the news bit that most if not all of the injuries to bystanders came from bullets fired by the police and the killer...

It happens.  Gunfire exchanges rarely go according to script, particularly with bystanders around.

But we'll just go ahead and continue with the incredibly popular "why-couldn't-they-just-shoot-the-gun-out-of-his-hand" criticism to police-related shootings.

Of course it happens. But to have it be 9 people? Not fun.

[Eddie Teach]

But we'll just go ahead and continue with the incredibly popular "why-couldn't-they-just-shoot-the-gun-out-of-his-hand" criticism to police-related shootings.

Well, if they either have atrocious aim or don't know who they're supposed to be shooting at, it's probably best not to fire.

[CountDeMoney]

Well, if they either have atrocious aim or don't know who they're supposed to be shooting at, it's probably best not to fire.

OK, Wyatt Earp.

[Eddie Teach]

OK, Wyatt Earp.

I've never shot anyone I didn't mean to.

[DGuller]

Btw, the one part I find creepy is the news bit that most if not all of the injuries to bystanders came from bullets fired by the police and the killer...

It happens.  Gunfire exchanges rarely go according to script, particularly with bystanders around.

But we'll just go ahead and continue with the incredibly popular "why-couldn't-they-just-shoot-the-gun-out-of-his-hand" criticism to police-related shootings.

Of course it happens. But to have it be 9 people? Not fun.

I'm sure that number includes people hit by debri from bullet hits rather than bullets themselves.

[Viking]

if true this is creepy

Why is that creepy?

I don't need to justify my emotions to you.

I wasn't asking for a justification - just trying to understand.

What I saw was that the Onion had made an article about Americans being happy there had been no shootings - and then the next day there was.  As MSil's post here pointed out - not so surprising that the Onion would run such a piece as shootings have been a common news item for the US in the last few weeks.

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were actually being serious for once.

I find all apparent premonitions intrinsically creepy and I find satire that unintentionally hits home as hard as that onion article did creepy as well, especially when lives are lost.

[The Minsky Moment]

Crime doesn't exist in Portugal, eh?

To be fair, the murder rate in Portugal is 1.2 . . .

Even the criminals with ambition gave emigrated.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Crime doesn't exist in Portugal, eh?

To be fair, the murder rate in Portugal is 1.2 . . .

Even the criminals with ambition gave emigrated.

Well, Portugal's heyday was centuries ago.  Anybody left with gumption has moved to greener pastures.

[lustindarkness]

Btw, the one part I find creepy is the news bit that most if not all of the injuries to bystanders came from bullets fired by the police and the killer...

It happens.  Gunfire exchanges rarely go according to script, particularly with bystanders around.

But we'll just go ahead and continue with the incredibly popular "why-couldn't-they-just-shoot-the-gun-out-of-his-hand" criticism to police-related shootings.

Or just tackle him, guns are not needed in civilized societies.

[Solmyr]