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Started by Octavian, August 10, 2012, 10:05:06 AM

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garbon

#3480
April 03, 2021, 12:32:58 PM
Agree on EU4/EU5 but what is CK3's consistent design? Build in a bunch of small features over time?

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

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Zanza

#3481
April 03, 2021, 02:00:26 PM
In my opinion, the core mechanics of CK3 work well to create a good game. And all DLCs so far just add flavour, not core mechanics.  The Northern Lords was pretty focused.

Compare that to this hodgepodge of features. A glaring lack of direction.

garbon

#3482
April 03, 2021, 02:43:33 PM
The well known combo of poetry, snow and dueling? :P
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Zanza

#3483
April 05, 2021, 12:08:41 PM
Poetry and duelling fit well into the general character-based design of the game.

But I actually meant the Viking DLC. It offers new targeted content for a particular play style. No more, no less. In the past, Paradox DLCs often mixed essential gameplay mechanics with the DLC content. And if you did not buy the DLC, the core game was incomplete. An example is EU4 development where a lot of the features are only available in DLCs.

garbon

#3484
April 05, 2021, 12:14:08 PM
Yes I guess my thought was that it is a) premature to evaluate exactly how it'll play out for ck3 and b) that newly added features are not entirely cohesive.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Zanza

#3485
April 05, 2021, 04:41:12 PM
Fair enough. We will see with the next DLC, which is named "expansion" and not "flavour pack".

Sheilbh

#3486
April 05, 2021, 05:21:41 PM
To be honest I'm pretty happy with CK3 as is. It feels like a good reasonably developed game that I've been enjoying out of the box - which is not the norm for Paradox lately (especially EUIV). I think maybe because of that there's less pressure on the new DLCs to be big new features etc and they can focus a little more on flavour - which is needed.
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Threviel

#3487
April 06, 2021, 05:41:57 AM
I thought EUIV was quite good out of the box, unlike EUIII which was a disaster from the beginning. Might be my memory that's faulty though.

Syt

#3488
April 06, 2021, 09:29:29 AM
Only one step away from Incan torpedo boats:

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Habbaku

#3489
April 06, 2021, 09:35:58 AM
They're scouting ahead.
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Syt

#3490
April 06, 2021, 09:46:09 AM
According to the DD war canoes are meant for civs without access to cogs so they can get troops across water. They will have abysmal combat stats.
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—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

#3491
April 06, 2021, 10:39:43 AM
Just scrolled through the first few pages of the thread ... the game was announced in 2012 (released 2013). :D

Where has all the time gone. :(
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Valmy

#3492
April 06, 2021, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 06, 2021, 10:39:43 AM
Just scrolled through the first few pages of the thread ... the game was announced in 2012 (released 2013). :D

Where has all the time gone. :(

Getting old sucks. You blink and it is ten years later. How? How does that happen? Damn.
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Tamas

#3493
April 06, 2021, 11:01:19 AM
I am sure EU4 helped me give a good impression to my new flat mate back then.  :lol: I moved to England I think days before it got released and after it released I still had a few days empty before starting my new job so obviously I totally marathoned it barely leaving my room.  :lol:

crazy canuck

#3494
April 06, 2021, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: Threviel on April 06, 2021, 05:41:57 AM
I thought EUIV was quite good out of the box, unlike EUIII which was a disaster from the beginning. Might be my memory that's faulty though.

Yeah, it was very good out of the box.
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