Europa Universalis IV announced

[The Brain]

Forts cost maintenance? I only suggested this in 2001.

[Josquius]

Second that a game that isn't just about sieges sounds interesting.

[Liep]

I've played about an hour and it still all about sieges really. You might siege an enemy province faster if it's without a fort, but those single enemy units will siege 2-3 of your provinces in no time without you noticing before the occupied sign pops up.

Not really sure I like this more, but I guess it does add a "Defense"-game sort of vibe (in placement of forts). More time needed to judge at any rate.

[Caliga]

So does it break existing save games?

[Liep]

So does it break existing save games?

Yes, can't load previous save games.

[garbon]

Which they'd actually said from the get.

[Caliga]

I'm not a good listener.

[Solmyr]

Aaaaand there's a sale on all previous EU4 content, El Dorado at -25% and everything else at -75%.

[Caliga]

Aaaaand there's a sale on all previous EU4 content, El Dorado at -25% and everything else at -75%.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

and if you go via greenmangaming and use a voucher you can get the newest content for -20% too. So mix and match

[Josephus]

Finally will get Art of War, that one's been overpriced for ages.

[Sophie Scholl]

I'm really liking this expansion so far.  I'm playing a game as England starting when Edward IV took the throne.  I went with the Warwick proposal of allying with France over Burgundy.  It's going quite well so far.  Calais is now considered part of Flanders, so a French/English lasting peace is possible.

[Caliga]

Finally will get Art of War, that one's been overpriced for ages.

Yeah, when P'dox releases something new, that's my cue to pick up a bunch of older stuff cheap.  I already have AoW but I just got all kinds of music and gfx packs for EU4 for like 3 bucks.

When I open EU4 now, it's still the same theme music but now it's heavy metal.

[Josephus]

Which one is that....wanna make sure i don't buy it

[Caliga]

Its called guns drums and steel or some shit like that.