The State of Affairs in Russia

[grumbler]

Poland has not yet perished! 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/world/europe/poland-steels-for-battle-seeing-echoes-of-cold-war-in-ukraine-crisis.html?hpw&_r=0

Poles Steel for Battle, Fearing Russia Will March on Them Next[snip]

This looks like a bogus story - never heard of these people. 

Well, certainly, if you've never heard of them, then the whole story (including photos, quotes, maps, etc) must have been fabricated by the New York Times.  I mean, how could the staff of the NYT possibly match the breadth of your knowledge?  No one here should entertain for a moment the conviction that you are full of shit on this. 

[Eddie Teach]

When Marty pleads ignorance, I tend to believe him. 

[Martinus]

I didn't mean to say this is made up but the implication this reflects a larger trend is. The New York Times took a handful of marginal people and tries to use them to build a story that "Poland is bracing for war". It isn't.

[The Brain]

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. Should we really argue about this?

[Martinus]

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. Should we really argue about this?

I just find it funny that grumbler says I am full of shit when it comes to knowing the situation in Poland better than NYT.

[Syt]

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. Should we really argue about this?

I just find it funny that grumbler says I am full of shit when it comes to knowing the situation in Poland better than NYT.

Dude, you're sitting in your gentrified ivory tower. What do you know about the average Pole?

[alfred russel]

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. Should we really argue about this?

I just find it funny that grumbler says I am full of shit when it comes to knowing the situation in Poland better than NYT.

Dude, you're sitting in your gentrified ivory tower. What do you know about the average Pole?

Yeah, and if you reflect on the NYT, if there is one thing it really connects with, it is the common man. That lower middle class American, NASCAR fans, rodeo cowboys...these are the images that come to mind when thinking of the generic NYT reader.

[Syt]

[Razgovory]

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. Should we really argue about this?

I just find it funny that grumbler says I am full of shit when it comes to knowing the situation in Poland better than NYT.

Dude, you're sitting in your gentrified ivory tower. What do you know about the average Pole?

Besides, it's pretty well established that Grumbler is an expert on about anything, just ask him.  I'd say it's even money if he knows more about Polish law then you do.

[jimmy olsen]

I didn't mean to say this is made up but the implication this reflects a larger trend is. The New York Times took a handful of marginal people and tries to use them to build a story that "Poland is bracing for war". It isn't.

I haven't read the article since posting it,  but if I recall correctly, they were qouting rather significant numbers aa being involved in these militias. If the numbers are accurate it would seem to imply a trend  to me.

EDIT: Checking it, they say they have 80,000 members. I think that's a significant number.

[Ed Anger]

Mart got all uppity when he got the ice maker.

[grumbler]

Mart got all uppity when he got the ice maker.

He allowed no scribes.

[Ed Anger]

He was almost stoned to death by the rest of the village when he had ice in his Appletini.

[Martinus]

I didn't mean to say this is made up but the implication this reflects a larger trend is. The New York Times took a handful of marginal people and tries to use them to build a story that "Poland is bracing for war". It isn't.

I haven't read the article since posting it,  but if I recall correctly, they were qouting rather significant numbers aa being involved in these militias. If the numbers are accurate it would seem to imply a trend  to me.

EDIT: Checking it, they say they have 80,000 members. I think that's a significant number.

General Pacek estimated there were 120 such groups at the moment, with about 80,000 members, but he acknowledged that this was just a guess, as the groups are not required to report their existence or membership rolls.

They do not *have* 80,000 members - some guy talking to the NYP about such groups (that hardly anyone has heard of) says he guesses they may have 80,000 members. Nice try though, Tim.

[jimmy olsen]

I didn't mean to say this is made up but the implication this reflects a larger trend is. The New York Times took a handful of marginal people and tries to use them to build a story that "Poland is bracing for war". It isn't.

I haven't read the article since posting it,  but if I recall correctly, they were qouting rather significant numbers aa being involved in these militias. If the numbers are accurate it would seem to imply a trend  to me.

EDIT: Checking it, they say they have 80,000 members. I think that's a significant number.

General Pacek estimated there were 120 such groups at the moment, with about 80,000 members, but he acknowledged that this was just a guess, as the groups are not required to report their existence or membership rolls.

They do not *have* 80,000 members - some guy talking to the NYP about such groups (that hardly anyone has heard of) says he guesses they may have 80,000 members. Nice try though, Tim.

What you mean to say is you haven't heard of them. You're like that actress who wondered how Nixon won, no one she knew voted for him!