The State of Affairs in Russia

[The Brain]

There's something perverse about watching the leaders of great powers discuss the dismemberment of an Eastern European country in Munich

Sorry, I'm already fapped out on caning porn.

[Martinus]

There's something perverse about watching the leaders of great powers discuss the dismemberment of an Eastern European country in Munich

I have already said that.

[Sheilbh]

Soz.

[Tonitrus]

I know most of the EU wouldn't stomach it, but President Tonitrus would have gone full-unilateral trade embargo some time ago. 

[Tamas]

Yeah its creepy, especially as Russia of today is so comparable to Germany of the 1930s.

One of the bad things of being interested in history, is that you know you don't know what is happening behind the scenes. It is easy to think there is no realistic danger of us in fact reliving the end second half of the 1930s now with different actors, but contemporary citizens of those times hadn't much clue about the severity of the situation or the true motives and way of thinking of the major actors until after the fact.

[mongers]

Sweden has no armed forces and is self-destructing as a society. There will be no help from us.

Oh well, I guess time for Poland to stand up to the task and become a regional power.

In such a situation I think the logical thing for Poland to do, would be to develop nuclear weapons, I don't think it would be that hard, or take too long.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

They probably would over Poland, but I don't think Putin would mess with Poland.

seems to me that poland needs to intervene in the baltics in that case...

[Martinus]

I think Poland would almost certainly send troops into Baltics if Russia tried the Ukrainian scenario there and Baltic governments requested it.

[The Brain]

Sweden has no armed forces and is self-destructing as a society. There will be no help from us.

Oh well, I guess time for Poland to stand up to the task and become a regional power.

In such a situation I think the logical thing for Poland to do, would be to develop nuclear weapons, I don't think it would be that hard, or take too long.

lol

[Tonitrus]

I think Poland would almost certainly send troops into Baltics if Russia tried the Ukrainian scenario there and Baltic governments requested it.

Take Kaliningrad on the way up there.

[Martinus]

I think Poland would almost certainly send troops into Baltics if Russia tried the Ukrainian scenario there and Baltic governments requested it.

Take Kaliningrad on the way up there.

No point. It is badly contaminated, has highest HIV rates in Europe and people from there shop in Poland (although this dropped down after the roubble plummetted).

[jimmy olsen]

Right, Ukraine is an example of this. If Russia were to invade the Baltics (I do not think they would), it will be the same way they've invaded Ukraine.

That would mean the end of NATO.

Incidentally, that would also mean the end of EU/Eurozone. All of Baltics have Euro as their currency. If the entire region was invaded (with no military response from NATO/EU), that would make Euro tumble down like a house of cards.

And that's the real reason that NATO would act. I don't think the Germans and French would just let the EU collapse like that.

[Duque de Bragança]

I think Poland would almost certainly send troops into Baltics if Russia tried the Ukrainian scenario there and Baltic governments requested it.

Take Königsberg on the way up there.

Fixed! Though Królewiec might be also accepted as a token of good will.

[Jacob]

And that's the real reason that NATO would act. I don't think the Germans and French would just let the EU collapse like that.

Unless trouble in Greece does the EU in first.

[OttoVonBismarck]

It'll be interesting to see if they let Greece stay in the EU if they leave the currency union, while it may at first seem like "why not, they wouldn't be the only EU members outside the Eurozone" a lot of people are saying it won't be permitted.