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Started by Syt, August 01, 2012, 12:01:36 AM

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Valmy

Quote from: DGuller on August 20, 2012, 02:01:10 PM
I must not be familiar enough with Russian race speak then.  The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Russians are perfectly aware that there is a place called Africa, and that mostly African-Americans live there.  They are also perfectly aware that such people are referred to as "black", even if they would usually use the word "negr" (not a slur in Russia).  It seems like calling people from Caucasus black would introduce some confusion in communication.

I would be shocked if more than a few thousand African-Americans are presently living in Africa. I bet Africa is mostly inhabited by Africans.
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Quote from: Valmy on August 20, 2012, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 20, 2012, 02:01:10 PM
I must not be familiar enough with Russian race speak then.  The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Russians are perfectly aware that there is a place called Africa, and that mostly African-Americans live there.  They are also perfectly aware that such people are referred to as "black", even if they would usually use the word "negr" (not a slur in Russia).  It seems like calling people from Caucasus black would introduce some confusion in communication.

I would be shocked if more than a few thousand African-Americans are presently living in Africa. I bet Africa is mostly inhabited by Africans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americo-Liberian

QuoteToday, the Americo-Liberian population numbers about 150,000.

so, quite a few more than a few thousand.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
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Quote from: Viking on August 20, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
so, quite a few more than a few thousand.

So,  a whopping 0.01 percent of the total population of the continent . . .
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Viking

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 20, 2012, 03:15:54 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 20, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
so, quite a few more than a few thousand.

So,  a whopping 0.01 percent of the total population of the continent . . .

being off by multiple orders of magnitude is never trivial.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

DGuller


grumbler

Quote from: Viking on August 20, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americo-Liberian

QuoteToday, the Americo-Liberian population numbers about 150,000.

so, quite a few more than a few thousand.

No, those are Africans.  African-Americans are Americans of African ancestry.  Could be a few thousand of them living as expats, but I doubt that the African-American expat community in Africa is in the hundreds of thousands.
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Viking

Quote from: grumbler on August 20, 2012, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 20, 2012, 03:12:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americo-Liberian

QuoteToday, the Americo-Liberian population numbers about 150,000.

so, quite a few more than a few thousand.

No, those are Africans.  African-Americans are Americans of African ancestry.  Could be a few thousand of them living as expats, but I doubt that the African-American expat community in Africa is in the hundreds of thousands.

Well these guys are africans of african-american ancestry.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

grumbler

Quote from: Viking on August 20, 2012, 03:54:22 PM
Well these guys are africans of african-american ancestry.

Glad to see you come around to the correct understanding.  :showoff:
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Barrister

I suppose the correct terminology would be african-american-africans.
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Queequeg

I don't know, they've been in Africa far longer than their stay in America. 
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Quote from: Barrister on August 20, 2012, 04:36:27 PM
I suppose the correct terminology would be african-american-africans.

I've got a suggestion, but that terminology is frowned upon.
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Quote from: Ed Anger on August 20, 2012, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 20, 2012, 04:36:27 PM
I suppose the correct terminology would be african-american-africans.

I've got a suggestion, but that terminology is frowned upon.

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Admiral Yi

Read an interesting article waaay back written by a girl who grew up in Liberia, descendent of freed slaves.  Article talked about the societal and economic division between the freed slaves and the locals, highlighted during National Day celebrations, which commemorates a battle that the freed slaves won over the locals.  Sort of like making Quebecois celebrate the Plains of Abraham I figure.