Does the US need to be fundamentally transformed?

Started by derspiess, July 27, 2012, 01:15:59 PM

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Does the US need to be fundamentally transformed?

Yes (American)
15 (31.3%)
No (American)
11 (22.9%)
Yes (furriner)
17 (35.4%)
No (furrener)
5 (10.4%)

Total Members Voted: 47

The Brain

Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2012, 12:59:19 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 01, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2012, 10:09:46 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 31, 2012, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 31, 2012, 10:26:05 AM
Maybe we'd get new ones if people thought there was a chance they could win. We could have: Neilists.
Neilism is unconstitutional.  They'd be coming for your guns, and most of their punishments are cruel and/or unusual.

I don't have any guns.

Unwise. Obama will just take your organs instead.

I already requested to be reviewed by a death panel.

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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: The Brain on August 01, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 01, 2012, 10:09:46 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 31, 2012, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 31, 2012, 10:26:05 AM
Maybe we'd get new ones if people thought there was a chance they could win. We could have: Neilists.
Neilism is unconstitutional.  They'd be coming for your guns, and most of their punishments are cruel and/or unusual.

I don't have any guns.

Unwise. Obama will just take your organs instead.

sucks if you like to play Bach

Josquius

Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 07:37:04 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2012, 12:38:28 AM
I really believe AV to be the best and most representative voting system.
Or at least the one that would benefit Labour the most, and that's what's important to you.

Benefit the left in Britain the most certainly. And yes, that is important to me. Labour I don't really care about and as a party it would lead to their splitting.
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Neil

Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 07:37:04 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 01, 2012, 12:38:28 AM
I really believe AV to be the best and most representative voting system.
Or at least the one that would benefit Labour the most, and that's what's important to you.

Benefit the left in Britain the most certainly. And yes, that is important to me. Labour I don't really care about and as a party it would lead to their splitting.
And that's why people should take your word for it, because the political left it bad for Britain.  The political left stands for republicanism, solidarity with Europe and class warfare.  Because of the bonds of affection that tie the former Empire together, it would be sad to see a guilotine in Piccadilly, and Euro-induced poverty in the mother country.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Siege

We need to preserve America, as the sole superpower.

All other powers that have ever existed have been faaaaaaaaaaaaaar worst.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Neil

Quote from: Siege on August 01, 2012, 08:25:56 PM
We need to preserve America, as the sole superpower.

All other powers that have ever existed have been faaaaaaaaaaaaaar worst.
That ship has sailed.  The age of the superpowers is over.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Siege

Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 01, 2012, 08:25:56 PM
We need to preserve America, as the sole superpower.

All other powers that have ever existed have been faaaaaaaaaaaaaar worst.
That ship has sailed.  The age of the superpowers is over.

I didn;t waste my time reading that book, "The Rise of The Rest".
America still smokes everybody else, despite Obama.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Neil

Quote from: Siege on August 01, 2012, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 01, 2012, 08:25:56 PM
We need to preserve America, as the sole superpower.

All other powers that have ever existed have been faaaaaaaaaaaaaar worst.
That ship has sailed.  The age of the superpowers is over.
I didn;t waste my time reading that book, "The Rise of The Rest".
America still smokes everybody else, despite Obama.
Not at all.  America picks their fights very carefully now.  Only the weakest countries are chosen for attack, whereas middling countries like Iran and North Korea are immune to the US.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Siege

Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:47:45 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 01, 2012, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 01, 2012, 08:25:56 PM
We need to preserve America, as the sole superpower.

All other powers that have ever existed have been faaaaaaaaaaaaaar worst.
That ship has sailed.  The age of the superpowers is over.
I didn;t waste my time reading that book, "The Rise of The Rest".
America still smokes everybody else, despite Obama.
Not at all.  America picks their fights very carefully now.  Only the weakest countries are chosen for attack, whereas middling countries like Iran and North Korea are immune to the US.

Because they are not perceived as existancionall threats.
American wars since WW2 have been war of choices, and we all know democracies suck at fighting war of choices. Still have been rather succesfull at it.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Neil

Any country that is an existential threat to the US is safe from US attack, because those countries have atomic weapons.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.