Do you think the West is going to see sort sort of great upheaval...

[The Brain]

It is possible that we will suffer a tremendous uprising from the bottom.

[MadImmortalMan]

We will se a series of debt events that will be larger than any that have happened before. But the fallout could be smaller than it seems. Dunno.

[citizen k]

It is possible that we will suffer a tremendous uprising from the bottom.

Eat more fiber.

[Siege]

We should save this thread to bring it up when the upheaval happens, so we remember how naive we were.

I remember that thread in the Paradox Off topic, were everybody was saying that the US was untouchable, around August 2001.

By the way, doesn't the Long War counts as an upheaval?

[DGuller]

In a world with nuclear weapons, an upheaval is always just moments away.  Sure, no rational person would launch nukes out of the blue.  However, miscommunications and game theory accidents can happen.

Apart from that, the rise of China can eventually lead to a point where China can't avoid asserting itself, and the West can't avoid reasserting itself.  Then there is always a threat of a new pandemic wiping out large swathes of population, before we figure out ways to contain it.  In a world as interconnected as ours is, that could be a huge disaster.

[Ideologue]

What you call upheaval I call victory.  For the time being, we can still win with minimal losses.  LAUNCH TODAY OR PAY LATER.

But upheaval?  No.  We're too weak, too soft, and the powers that control the West too strong.  This is how human history, at least in terms of human philosophical, political, and economic revolution, ends.  We can only hope our successors are superior, which should be an easy enough bar to clear.

[Neil]

By the way, doesn't the Long War counts as an upheaval?

What do you mean by the Long War?

[Razgovory]

By the way, doesn't the Long War counts as an upheaval?

What do you mean by the Long War?

Obviously he refers to Rudolf's war against the Turks.

[Scipio]

If my A/C don't get fixed tomorry, we shall see a fuckin' upheaval in the goddamn WEST, mofuckers!

[garbon]

If my A/C don't get fixed tomorry, we shall see a fuckin' upheaval in the goddamn WEST, mofuckers!

Sounds like a storm in a teacup. Also, MS is not really the West.