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Started by garbon, June 19, 2012, 09:14:40 AM

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Grey Fox

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 21, 2012, 12:14:32 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on June 20, 2012, 11:38:48 PMOn a desktop?  Metro is never happening.

Agreed.

I have heard that there are certain functions for which metro is required because the desktop itself functions as merely one of many metro apps. That makes you flip in and out between metro and the desktop a lot on a PC. And the start menu is gone. Hopefully, they will give us some settings to re-desktopize it for the PC. In and out of metro does not sound appealing at all.

That is true. You need to use metro to start applications, especially if you haven't made a shortcup on the desktop or pin to task bar.

Also, since no one ever mentions it, the red X to close apps(and alt-f4) is GONE!
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Neil on June 20, 2012, 08:02:59 AM
They know that enterprise users on which they depend (as no large business can use Apple shit in case they need some sort of custom application programmed)

There are many reasons why Apple hardware is unsuitable for large enterprises, but this is not one of them.  Most of it is the technical debt in Microsoft-centric enterprise applications, servers, and IT support staffs.  MS has been coasting on that debt for at least a decade, but its going to wither away eventually if they don't  start doing something interesting or keep putting out piles of shit like Vista.

Valdemar

Quote from: Liep on June 20, 2012, 04:38:55 PM
Confirmed, we're getting a win8 tablet for work. That'll be fun. On the plus side our IT department probably won't have it working until late 2013.

Arent you in public transport, driving trains? It never cease to amaze me the stupid things public and semi public companies pour out on their employees and at the same time fire ten percent or more of the workforce due to cost saving needs :S

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Liep

Quote from: Valdemar on July 03, 2012, 06:23:05 AM
Quote from: Liep on June 20, 2012, 04:38:55 PM
Confirmed, we're getting a win8 tablet for work. That'll be fun. On the plus side our IT department probably won't have it working until late 2013.

Arent you in public transport, driving trains? It never cease to amaze me the stupid things public and semi public companies pour out on their employees and at the same time fire ten percent or more of the workforce due to cost saving needs :S

V

It'll actually bring down costs when we get it. That is, if it works as intended, but as we're seeing with the travel-card it'll be a sure success. :P
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Lucidor

Should I get my planned new computer now, just to avoid W8? Will W7 get hard to get as they try to push W8 with every new computer? I was planning on waiting some more.

garbon

Quote from: Lucidor on July 03, 2012, 03:24:02 PM
Should I get my planned new computer now, just to avoid W8? Will W7 get hard to get as they try to push W8 with every new computer? I was planning on waiting some more.

Yeah, I'm starting to think the same.
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Lucidor on July 03, 2012, 03:24:02 PM
Should I get my planned new computer now, just to avoid W8? Will W7 get hard to get as they try to push W8 with every new computer? I was planning on waiting some more.

You have some time, as the planned end of mainstream support for W7 isn't until JAN15.  It really depends on how quickly the OEMs pick it up.

Valdemar

Quote from: Liep on July 03, 2012, 08:58:14 AM

It'll actually bring down costs when we get it. That is, if it works as intended, but as we're seeing with the travel-card it'll be a sure success. :P

I never cease to be amased at the excuses in public organsations for fringe benefits for their employees while at the same time griping about how hard they have it... All the public employees I've met have far better phones tablets and laptops than I ever had in private organisations, and with far less work related uses...

My brother in law works in central administration, he has a laptop, an Ipad, a phone and free wifi, and all he actually do on it work related is to check mails... I mean, he is an office worker, he has NO specialised applications, his most powerfull tool is word :D

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Liep

Mind you, we're not going to be allowed to bring these home. Or if we are I'm not going to, taxes and all.

Also, my high tech phone:

"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on June 21, 2012, 07:45:37 AM
Quote from: Neil on June 20, 2012, 08:02:59 AM
They know that enterprise users on which they depend (as no large business can use Apple shit in case they need some sort of custom application programmed)

There are many reasons why Apple hardware is unsuitable for large enterprises, but this is not one of them.  Most of it is the technical debt in Microsoft-centric enterprise applications, servers, and IT support staffs.  MS has been coasting on that debt for at least a decade, but its going to wither away eventually if they don't  start doing something interesting or keep putting out piles of shit like Vista.
Don't forget Millennium.  Howevr, for all that XP was excellent system, so is Windows 7 and windows 2008.  Active Directory is great for management and Apple only recently got into the game with stuff like it, and still needs time to grow.
PDH!

DGuller

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on June 19, 2012, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 19, 2012, 07:07:54 PM
If anything gives me hope that Windows 7 will last quite some time is that there is probably no way the DoD will figure out Windows 8.

My corner of the DoD hadn't even figured out Windows 7 yet when I left.
My workplace still has Windows XP, since that's what our IT is comfortable with. :XD: I find it funny how my home computer is 10 years and 3 version ahead of my work computer when it comes to operating systems.

MadImmortalMan

Ballmer got excited at the recent shindig in Atlanta and promised every MSFT employee one of these things. All the execs in the front row facepalmed.  :lol:
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Barrister

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 26, 2012, 02:16:06 PM
Ballmer got excited at the recent shindig in Atlanta and promised every MSFT employee one of these things. All the execs in the front row facepalmed.  :lol:

We'll that's one way to ensure a large installed base and sales... :unsure:
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: DGuller on July 26, 2012, 01:57:10 PM
My workplace still has Windows XP, since that's what our IT is comfortable with. :XD: I find it funny how my home computer is 10 years and 3 version ahead of my work computer when it comes to operating systems.

Yeah, so were we.  Windows XP + Office 2003.  Corporate was almost done with its transition to Windows 7 and Office 2010, though.

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on July 26, 2012, 02:16:06 PM
Ballmer got excited at the recent shindig in Atlanta and promised every MSFT employee one of these things. All the execs in the front row facepalmed.  :lol:

That what, a $500 bonus to every employee?  Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.  In fact, it sounds like an excellent idea.