Is Texas dad who killed man to protect his 5-year-old daughter a criminal?

[jimmy olsen]

A 23 year old father of a 5 year old....colour me suspicious of his status as an upstanding member of society.

That doesn't have anything to do with whether he's a moral individual or not.

[CountDeMoney]

A 23 year old father of a 5 year old....colour me suspicious of his status as an upstanding member of society.

Yes, people who procreate always seem to have sinister motives.

[Josquius]

A 23 year old father of a 5 year old....colour me suspicious of his status as an upstanding member of society.

That doesn't have anything to do with whether he's a moral individual or not.

Not instantly. But having a kid when you're 18....tends not to say good things about a person.

[CountDeMoney]

But having a kid when you're 18....tends not to say good things about a person.

[Sheilbh]

These facts are mitigating when it comes to a gulty plea, but do not constitute a legal defence.

I think they could in the UK for a partial defence of loss of control due to a justifiable sense of being seriously wronged 

[Malthus]

These facts are mitigating when it comes to a gulty plea, but do not constitute a legal defence.

I think they could in the UK for a partial defence of loss of control due to a justifiable sense of being seriously wronged 

In Canada, "provocation" reduces murder to manslaughter.

232. (1) Culpable homicide that otherwise would be murder may be reduced to manslaughter if the person who committed it did so in the heat of passion caused by sudden provocation.

What is provocation

(2) A wrongful act or an insult that is of such a nature as to be sufficient to deprive an ordinary person of the power of self-control is provocation for the purposes of this section if the accused acted on it on the sudden and before there was time for his passion to cool.

Questions of fact

(3) For the purposes of this section, the questions

(a) whether a particular wrongful act or insult amounted to provocation, and

(b) whether the accused was deprived of the power of self-control by the provocation that he alleges he received,

are questions of fact, but no one shall be deemed to have given provocation to another by doing anything that he had a legal right to do, or by doing anything that the accused incited him to do in order to provide the accused with an excuse for causing death or bodily harm to any human being.

[jimmy olsen]

A 23 year old father of a 5 year old....colour me suspicious of his status as an upstanding member of society.

That doesn't have anything to do with whether he's a moral individual or not.

Not instantly. But having a kid when you're 18....tends not to say good things about a person.

[Neil]

A 23 year old father of a 5 year old....colour me suspicious of his status as an upstanding member of society.

That doesn't have anything to do with whether he's a moral individual or not.

Not instantly. But having a kid when you're 18....tends not to say good things about a person.

He has a point.  People who have children that young are generally bad people.

[Eddie Teach]

He has a point.  People who have children that young are generally bad people.

As are people who wait longer and people who never have kids.

[Darth Wagtaros]

He has a point.  People who have children that young are generally bad people.

As are people who wait longer and people who never have kids.

Or people who wait just long enough and then have some.

[Valmy]

If this goes to court it would a shame on Texas.
This guy is a fucking hero.

Somebody was killed dude.  An investigation and a trial should be happen.  I think there is plenty of precedent for the guy to be ruled innocent but the facts should at least be submitted before a jury.  You cannot just have people killing each other.

You have temporary insanity and it probably would at worst be manslaughter.

[Valmy]

Not instantly. But having a kid when you're 18....tends not to say good things about a person.

Dude it is a rural community.

[Valmy]

Whatever the moral justification of this, I can't see how this can be seen as "protecting". It's revenge.

Huh?  It looks like he hit the rapist with his hands while the rapist was in the act.  How is that revenge?

[jimmy olsen]

Whatever the moral justification of this, I can't see how this can be seen as "protecting". It's revenge.

Huh?  It looks like he hit the rapist with his hands while the rapist was in the act.  How is that revenge?

Read his edit.

[Valmy]

Read his edit.

Ah got it.  Yeah it will be a temporary insanity situation.