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Why Are There No European Franchises?

Started by Admiral Yi, May 07, 2009, 11:41:37 PM

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Admiral Yi

Are there any?  I got to thinking about KFC and McDonald's and such, their international presence and the thought crossed my mind that they're all American based.  I can think of big Yuro corporations that operate around the globe, but none on the franchise model.

Is this because of tax codes?  Lack of entrepeneurial spirit?

(This could be a short thread.)

PRC

They are product / culture based rather than franchise based?

Feta, Champagne, Burgundy, Bordeaux, Bratwurst, Beethoven, Fish n Chips, etc?

garbon

Quote from: PRC on May 07, 2009, 11:43:20 PM
They are product / culture based rather than franchise based?

Feta, Champagne, Burgundy, Bordeaux, Bratwurst, Beethoven, Fish n Chips, etc?

Hi, Mart. :)
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Syt

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 07, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Are there any?  I got to thinking about KFC and McDonald's and such, their international presence and the thought crossed my mind that they're all American based.  I can think of big Yuro corporations that operate around the globe, but none on the franchise model.

Is this because of tax codes?  Lack of entrepeneurial spirit?

(This could be a short thread.)

How does Aldi work overseas? Franchise? Or corp?
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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PRC


DisturbedPervert

Do you just mean restaurants?  There's stores, like Tesco and Carrefour.

garbon

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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.


Admiral Yi

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 07, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Do you just mean restaurants?  There's stores, like Tesco and Carrefour.
But owned by the parent company, no?

DisturbedPervert

#9
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 07, 2009, 11:58:23 PM
But owned by the parent company, no?

I don't know.  Tesco here is joint with a company called Lotus, but I guess not individually franchised.

Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Martinus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 07, 2009, 11:58:23 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 07, 2009, 11:56:33 PM
Do you just mean restaurants?  There's stores, like Tesco and Carrefour.
But owned by the parent company, no?
Carrefour is at least partially franchised. No idea about Tesco.

Martinus

#12
Yi, I think you are also overestimating the popularity of US-based franchises in Europe. Sure, McDonald's and KFC are rather wide spread (but not as much as in the US - for example living in Brussels, I haven't seen a single one of these; and in Warsaw, after the initial post-communist boom, they are beginning to lose money), but others didn't really take a foot hold (for example Burger King totally flopped, Starbucks also didn't take a hold outside of the UK etc.)

I read an article about this recently, actually, and based on what I read, I'd say that the relative lack of franchises in Europe is not because none wants to build a franchise network, but because European small enterpreneurs are not too hot about the concept of belonging to a franchise network. Apparently, the perceived benefits of belonging to a franchise are much less than the demands franchise owners are placing on the franchisees (this is the reason why several US franchises which tried to enter Poland, retreated after several years). Besides, especially, when it comes to food industry, belonging to a franchise may be more a curse than a boon in Europe.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Martinus on May 08, 2009, 12:19:40 AM
Yi, I think you are also overestimating the popularity of US-based franchises in Europe. Sure, McDonald's and KFC are rather wide spread, but others didn't really make a foot hold (for example Burger King totally flopped, Starbucks also didn't take a hold outside of the UK etc.)
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I was actually thinking about KFC in Pakistan and McDonald's in China.

Martinus

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 08, 2009, 12:22:40 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 08, 2009, 12:19:40 AM
Yi, I think you are also overestimating the popularity of US-based franchises in Europe. Sure, McDonald's and KFC are rather wide spread, but others didn't really make a foot hold (for example Burger King totally flopped, Starbucks also didn't take a hold outside of the UK etc.)
I was actually thinking about KFC in Pakistan and McDonald's in China.
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Ok. But I thought we were talking about franchises in Europe?

The fact that both US franchises and European franchises are doing worse in Europe suggests that it's less the fact that "Europeans can't build a franchise network, and Americans can" but that "Europeans don't want to belong to a franchise network".

The appeal of a franchise brand is not enough for most SME to justify paying a big license fee for the use of the franchise and giving away a lot of control over how their business is run; and in many cases, customers perceive a franchise (when it comes to food industry at least) as lower quality, actually.

Now, numerous European retail chains or gas station chains are run as franchises, at least partially. Most mobile operators also have distribution networks that run as franchises.