Here Languish Stands game thread

[Maximus]

Rouen falls, and assuming I got the religious stuff right eventually Bristol and Shrewsbury return to the protestant fold

[ulmont]

Rouen falls, and assuming I got the religious stuff right eventually Bristol and Shrewsbury return to the protestant fold

You can't commit Cranmer-as-debater without the Protestant player's agreement, which I'm guessing is not going to be forthcoming.  You do get the bonuses for Cranmer-as-reformer being close to your target spaces in either event.

BTW, Sol - if SBR had been able to excom Cranmer, then Max would not have been able to take any reformation attempts in England, so good job there.

[Viking]

And So The Blame Game Begins

[Tamas]

well, as rule of principle, in a game like this one, I keep my deals unless breaking them nets me the whole game. Against experienced diplomacy-ers like you guys, I might engage in lawyering to bend an agreement against it's intended spirit, but that's rarely necessary.

It is more necessary in Diplomacy-like games like Game of Thrones I guess, but even there I wouldn't break an agreement unless it yields huge profit.

edit: this was in reply to Viking of course

[Tamas]

And So The Blame Game Begins

I blame France.

For the first impulse or so, I was VERY worried that Max was about to backstab me and march on Antwerp - France was such an easy, obvious, empty target for him, that I couldn't believe he didn't have a better deal with France.
As it turns out no, he didn't, France just didn't think England would use the edge of about 4 badly guarded keys

[Maximus]

You can't commit Cranmer-as-debater without the Protestant player's agreement, which I'm guessing is not going to be forthcoming.  You do get the bonuses for Cranmer-as-reformer being close to your target spaces in either event.

So I need to reroll those again. That makes it a lot less sure thing.

[ulmont]

As it turns out no, he didn't, France just didn't think England would use the edge of about 4 badly guarded keys

I just hadn't done the math to see that Max could win this turn, was the problem.   

[Maximus]

Papists hang on in Shrewsbury, next player can fix that and the VPs. I have a fucking migraine

[Maximus]

I just hadn't done the math to see that Max could win this turn, was the problem.   

To be fair I had a really good hand this turn especially with the monaseries

[Viking]

I just hadn't done the math to see that Max could win this turn, was the problem.   

To be fair I had a really good hand this turn especially with the monaseries

I blame Tamas and ACTS.

[Viking]

OK England at 25 points with one card left winning ties and the pope with three cards left losing ties.

Conversion chances for Pope

Target	Probability
Lincoln	14%
Norwich	14%
London	3%
Bristol	8%
Portsmouth	5%
Plymouth	14%

Losing ties is really a bitch.... winning ties would have added about 45% to each of those rolls.

[Maximus]

Thos eprobabilities aren't independent though

[sbr]

So is ulmont still passing?

[Maximus]

I will be passing until doing so would end the phase
Actually that doesn't make much sense, ignore it

[ulmont]

Not having a conversion card, yes, passing at least until max hits one card.