Greek Neo-Nazi Politician Assaults Two Female MPs On Live TV

[Malthus]

Well, perhaps if she knew in 1919 what we know now, she'd have described herself as a "socialist" and not as a "communist". Some who flirted with Communism later rejected it on the basis of the fact that those exemplifying it were basically evil dictators - think of Orwell. That was hardly obvious in 1919.

Anyone with a common sense understanding of human nature would realize you'd have to spill oceans of blood to institute such a radical redistribution of wealth and privilege and to construct a power structure to safeguard and perpetuate it.

Doesn't the same go for such things as radically changing a society from a monarchy to a republic? Or worse, eliminating the wealth and privilege attached to slave-holding as a means of production? 

George Washington and Abraham Lincoln = criminals. At least, moreso than Rosa. They did, in fact, spill oceans of blood, while she mostly did the shedding of her own. 

[Neil]

George Washington and Abraham Lincoln = criminals. At least, moreso than Rosa. They did, in fact, spill oceans of blood, while she mostly did the shedding of her own. 

Washington was a damned criminal, but Lincoln wasn't the one who started the war.

[alfred russel]

I watched that video, and I wanted to hit them both, even though I didn't know what they were saying. Public discourse has deteriorated.

This was a commie / nazi debate in Europe. Throwing paper and slapping is a big improvement from 1941. 

[derspiess]

Seems a bit ass-backwards in thinking, frankly, to blame the existence of the Freikorps on "people like Rosa".

I'm not quite doing that.  I'm saying she & her fellow commie revolutionaries essentially legitimized the Freikorps by giving them a useful purpose (wiping out the communists). 

Nor is it obvious that all communists are essentially fungible.

Remember who you're talking to.  Communists of that era (and up to the end of the Cold War) were practically fungible in my book.

Neither her writings nor her actions, as far as I know, indicate that she was a ruthless dictator in the making. Quite the contrary.

I won't dispute that in & of itself.  But she laid a of a lot of groundwork for someone else to step in & be a ruthless, murderous dictator had her side won out.  And that's just as bad.