Obama personally orders every drone attack

[Neil]

Well, considering how the Bush White House rejected an operation to go after Al-Zawahiri in Pakistan in 2005, not anyone in office would have done the same.

al-Zawahiri != bin Laden.

[CountDeMoney]

How do you know they didn't have to in this case?

Fuck Pakistan.  You have a shot at Al-Zawahiri, you fucking take it.

[derspiess]

I always knock second-guess the Bush Administration for showing restraint when they didn't have to--and for not showing restraint when they needed to.

Edited for brevity.

[CountDeMoney]

I always knock second-guess the Bush Administration for showing restraint when they didn't have to--and for not showing restraint when they needed to.

Edited for brevity.

Hey, he had me won me over with the Axis of Evil, and the Wolfman's "ending states".

But he went after the wrong country that started with I.  Had it been Iran over terrorism, LIKE THE AXIS OF EVIL SPEECH IDENTIFIED AS POLICY, along with nukes identified by the French in 2003, I would probably be voting Republican now.  But nooooo....we had to fabricate a war to go after the guy Cheney still had a hard-on for since '91 and who tried ta whack mah Daddy, don't mess with Texas, etc.

[CountDeMoney]

Well, considering how the Bush White House rejected an operation to go after Al-Zawahiri in Pakistan in 2005, not anyone in office would have done the same.

al-Zawahiri != bin Laden.

Operationally, much more important than OBL.  Especially in 2005.

[Neil]

Well, considering how the Bush White House rejected an operation to go after Al-Zawahiri in Pakistan in 2005, not anyone in office would have done the same.

al-Zawahiri != bin Laden.

Operationally, much more important than OBL.  Especially in 2005.

Operations < politics.

[Sheilbh]

I am evaluating Obama based o what he did, not what he said he would do (or not do). What he SAID in campaigns he would do he most certainly did NOT do, which is actually why I am giving him a high grade.

I disagree.  I think he's backed out of his promises of civil liberties and Guantanamo.

Aside from that everything in his foreign/WoT policy has been entirely congruent with what he was saying on the campaign trail.  None of it's been surprising except to people who weren't paying attention - whether because they thought he was some sort of liberal messiah or on the right who thought he was a weak appeaser.

[derspiess]

Hey, he had me won me over with the Axis of Evil, and the Wolfman's "ending states".

But he went after the wrong country that started with I.  Had it been Iran over terrorism, LIKE THE AXIS OF EVIL SPEECH IDENTIFIED AS POLICY, along with nukes identified by the French in 2003, I would probably be voting Republican now.  But nooooo....we had to fabricate a war to go after the guy Cheney still had a hard-on for since '91 and who tried ta whack mah Daddy, don't mess with Texas, etc.

I think one thing we all learned from that era is that you do not mess with Texas.

[OttoVonBismarck]

about whacking bin Laden - I think anyone in office would have done the same.

You just can't give Obama credit for anything he's done, can you?

You're a special type of assclown to say that about Berkut when quoting a post of his in which he is explicitly giving Obama credit for something.

[Berkut]

about whacking bin Laden - I think anyone in office would have done the same.

You just can't give Obama credit for anything he's done, can you?

You're a special type of assclown to say that about Berkut when quoting a post of his in which he is explicitly giving Obama credit for something.

Pssst. I think DG was being ironic. Or sarcastic. Or maybe ironically sarcastic.

In any case, he was trying to be funny, in his Eastern European way.

[The Brain]

about whacking bin Laden - I think anyone in office would have done the same.

You just can't give Obama credit for anything he's done, can you?

You're a special type of assclown to say that about Berkut when quoting a post of his in which he is explicitly giving Obama credit for something.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Pssst. I think DG was being ironic. Or sarcastic. Or maybe ironically sarcastic.

In any case, he was trying to be funny, in his Eastern European way.

I don't think Slavic, which is why I have a job and am not a dysfunctional alcoholic with no understanding of how economic systems work, and why I don't fall in slavish worship to any underclass saber rattler that comes around and/or start killing Jews the second no one is looking. So unfortunately if that was DGuller trying to be funny, I'll cop to not being on the same wave length as him and thus highly unlikely to understand or accept anything he has in any way other than literally. To do otherwise would essentially be an attempt at thinking like a Slav.

[CountDeMoney]

and/or start killing Jews the second no one is looking

[Eddie Teach]

Pssst. I think DG was being ironic. Or sarcastic. Or maybe ironically sarcastic.

In any case, he was trying to be funny, in his Eastern European way.

I don't think Slavic, which is why I have a job and am not a dysfunctional alcoholic with no understanding of how economic systems work, and why I don't fall in slavish worship to any underclass saber rattler that comes around and/or start killing Jews the second no one is looking. So unfortunately if that was DGuller trying to be funny, I'll cop to not being on the same wave length as him and thus highly unlikely to understand or accept anything he has in any way other than literally. To do otherwise would essentially be an attempt at thinking like a Slav.

He's part Jew. 

[Razgovory]

I think one thing we all learned from that era is that you do not mess with Texas.

Yeah, you bother a Texan, and he's willing to kill American soldiers from all 50 states to overthrow you.