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Started by Lettow77, May 30, 2012, 02:25:17 PM

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Lettow77

May 30, 2012, 02:25:17 PM
 I just wanted to say to you specifically, but more generally to the people of languish:

  Equity is a fine goal for a national polity. A society that doesn't provide for its sick and elderly isn't much of a society- caring for the weak is one of the reasons we give authority figures our legitimacy. The fact that dying old people, who should be capitalizing on the fact we can have them live longer and in more comfort than ever before, have to make the tough call of dying prematurely with an inheritance or dying and leaving their grandchildren with debt is not something that should exist.

Unfortunately, the South, having lost most of its cultural base and values, has adopted a defensive position where it sees itself mostly in terms of opposition- the South is more against things the rest of the national polis is for than having clear ideologies rooted in its own ground.

Also unfortunately, race colours things. We live in a selfish society where there's a sense that society gave you little of what you have, and you did it all for yourself- so there's certainly no need to give back to society, or be forced to do so by the state. Distrust of the state is pervasive. But why wouldn't it be? The state intervenes on behalf of blacks, it is felt, and wealth is taken from people we care about (white southerners) to people we fear and resent (black southerners.)

This is unfortunate- there is no real unity, and the bad faith between whites and blacks prevents an idea like a strong social contract in which we all take care of each other. As a result, without any consensus on how to spend the wealthy's money to benefit society, they merely accrue it- without adequate sense of social obligation to improve the life of other Americans.

The individuality, distrust of gov't, and poisoned race relations/multiculturalism of America makes wealth redistribution a difficult case here. But it is a good thing! The social contract and cradle to grave socialism is a desirable thing, it just needs a more homogenous, law-abiding and responsible for the greater good.


Because after all, we should care about each other and want to provide for the needs of those we can care about- which is most easiest with those like us, or at the very least those who can abide by the societal construct and obey the laws and culture of whatever given land it is.


That's all. :)
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

CountDeMoney

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May 30, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
To prove your words true, I want you to french kiss Maxine Waters.  And then give her a rim job.

MadBurgerMaker

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May 30, 2012, 04:02:02 PM

derspiess

#3
May 30, 2012, 04:13:46 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
To prove your words true, I want you to french kiss Maxine Waters.  And then give her a rim job.

No, it has to be one of those with two last names.  So pick from Sheila Jackson Lee, Caroline Cheeks-Kilpatrick (Kwame's mom!), Carol Mostly-Wrong, etc.

I'd settle for him doing that to that gal from Florida who wears them crazy cowboy hats-- Fredrica Wilson (?)
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#4
May 30, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Rick Perry has two last names?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

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May 30, 2012, 04:26:28 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 30, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Rick Perry has two last names?

I don't get it.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#6
May 30, 2012, 04:27:08 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Lettow77

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May 30, 2012, 04:48:04 PM
 
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2012, 03:56:00 PM
To prove your words true, I want you to french kiss Maxine Waters.  And then give her a rim job.



Besides, the whole point was that you CAN'T have a nice welfare state with a cultural other you not only feel no sense of community with but perceive to be a damaging parasite.

I'll just go to Japan and work hard to pay taxes for their elderly. I'd like to take care of the elderly of such a nation.  :)
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

Caliga

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May 30, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
I hate college students. :)
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Ed Anger

#9
May 30, 2012, 06:27:05 PM
I thought this would be about lettow finally announcing to the world that his roommate finally penetrated his rebel asshole.
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alfred russel

#10
May 30, 2012, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on May 30, 2012, 02:25:17 PM

Because after all, we should care about each other and want to provide for the needs of those we can care about- which is most easiest with those like us, or at the very least those who can abide by the societal construct and obey the laws and culture of whatever given land it is.


That's all. :)

Lettow, Ide doesn't have sympathy for communism out of compassion for each member of society, but because he wants to string up and/or confiscate the possessions of those who have more money than he does.

:P (sort of)
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Caliga

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May 30, 2012, 07:04:52 PM
Everyone's political beliefs grow out of their own selfish needs, yes.  It's cute when people pretend otherwise though. :)
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alfred russel

#12
May 30, 2012, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 30, 2012, 07:04:52 PM
Everyone's political beliefs grow out of their own selfish needs, yes.  It's cute when people pretend otherwise though. :)

What about envy fueled murderous hatred? :P
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

FunkMonk

#13
May 30, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Ed Anger

#14
May 30, 2012, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on May 30, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 30, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
I hate college students. :)
:(

You people annoy me. Especially when I lecture and you assfucks play with your phones.
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